Upside Down People Podcast

21/05/2026

Historian and public advocate for Christian faith John Dickson uncovers the OLDEST Christian hymn with musical notation—rediscovered after 1800 years—and brings it back to life through a stunning modern collaboration with Chris Tomlin & Ben Fielding!

John Dickson is an academic historian, author, theologian, and founder of Undeceptions, with decades dedicated to making ancient Christianity accessible and compelling in today’s world.

He reveals:
◼️The incredible story of the mid-200s AD hymn buried in Egyptian sands—and why it’s proof of joyful Trinitarian worship BEFORE Nicaea
◼️ How this ancient melody reminds us to be joyful, non-grumpy Christians even in hardship
◼️ How persecuted Egyptian Christians sang confident praise amid Roman arrests and martyrdoms
◼️ Why connecting to 1800-year-old songs combats our culture’s obsession with the new and unstable
◼️ The surprising ‘brain explosion’ moment that turned a dusty papyrus into a global film, album, and church resource

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28/04/2026

What if the real issue isn’t money itself—but the silence and shame around it?

Hope Economy CEO Rosie Kendall reveals BIBLICAL truths & practical steps to overcome financial anxiety, build real community & disciple your money for God’s kingdom!

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24/04/2026

Ever feel stuck on where to start with better money habits?

Here’s a simple shift: ask yourself, “Does how I spend actually reflect my values?”
It’s not just about tracking expenses — it’s about aligning your actions with what truly matters to you.
In this conversation Rosie Kendall, CEO of , unpacks these questions and much more.

Sometimes, the smallest action can ripple into real change — what’s the one thing you could do today that aligns with your values?Maybe it’s as simple as being more intentional tomorrow.

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23/04/2026

“Why does money cause so much shame, isolation & anxiety for Christians in a ‘lucky country’ like Australia?

Rosie Kendall is the CEO of Hope Economy ( )(formerly Christians Against Poverty Australia), a ministry that’s helped thousands escape debt & distress while sharing Jesus’ love through churches for over 26 years.

In this conversation she explains:◼️Why financial struggle pushes people to the margins & isolates them from church community◼️The shame trap of ‘we should have enough’ in Australia’s wealthy culture – & how circumstances, not just choices, create hardship◼️How to spot needs in your community by slowing down & asking better questions (instead of assuming)◼️The power of simply sitting with someone in overwhelm – making one phone call together can be transformative◼️Why Jesus invites us to intentional money discipleship: see money as a practical tool to reflect kingdom values, generosity & abundance (not scarcity)◼️Small steps to grow generosity, create margin & teach kids stewardship without fear or formulas”

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24/02/2026

New Episode Coming soon...

10/02/2026

Why do we fear failure so much in our faith journeys?

Duncan Robinson is the lead pastor of Northgate Church, a black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, former Sydney breakfast radio host, and an author of the new book ‘Full Phoenix Rising’. In this conversation he unpacks how REAL-TIME GRACE at transforms our messiest moments into powerful redemption stories!

We talk:
◼️The wild Vietnam story that birthed ‘Full Phoenix Rising’ and why catastrophe creates space for rebirth
◼️Why Jesus leads slowly, humbly, and messily – not with shock and awe marketing
◼️How retroactive grace (rose-tinted history) blinds us to real-time redemption in the moment
◼️The dangerous shift from polished performance to presence in post-COVID church
◼️Why belonging must come before behaving – and how grace meets us in our worst seasons”

🎧 Search “Duncan Robinson Upside Down People” on YouTube to watch the full episode

28/01/2026

Hello 2026 👋 First episode for the year has landed.

of & Rory Shiner of join the podcast to have a conversation around evangelism in this cultural moment.

We explore how the gospel truly breaks through in a post-Christian world obsessed with progress, identity, and anti-woke backlash!

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30/12/2025

Thankful for the incredible year 2025 has been for the pod! Thank you to each of you who have listened, followed & shared and for all our incredible guest, without both of you these conversations wouldn’t happen!

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Looking forward to 2026 & many more conversations 🫶

Peace & love,
Caleb

16/12/2025

In light of the recent antisemitic acts of violence in Sydney, I add a conversation to understand how Christians might respond in the face of terror and evil. Listen / Watch on Youtube/ Spotify/ Apple Podcasts

In the wake of the horrific anti-Semitic attacks at Sydney's Bondi Beach on the 14th December that claimed innocent lives and has left Australia in lament w...

14/12/2025