24/07/2026
I’ve been thinking about how often we view young people’s presence in public spaces as inherently a problem - and how big a part disdain and just real dislike for young people is a part of reactionary outlooks.
Where I like working in the library there’s desks and then a divide and the waiting area for citizens advice bureau services and the registry office. So I often hear conversations going on and it’s a bit of a slice of life. And very often you hear older people talking very loudly, and sometimes I have to move to a quieter part of the library.
Surprisingly regularly - as on this Monday - you hear a lot of rather loud obnoxious casual racism and complaints about how terrible the country is, mixed in with well intentioned but horribly authoritarian advice to the parents waiting to register their babies birth.
The other thing that regularly happens - like clock work - about 15.30 is groups of school kids start coming in to the library, often being loud, boisterous and yes a little obnoxious,. And every time they are swiftly squashed and normally pushed out by library staff.
It’s just night and day how the two different groups are treated. I’m happy to put up with a bit of noise in the library if people can access so many services and make human connections there. But why can’t we extend the same grace to young people going to one of the few places they can hang out for free?
Sharing this reminded me of a WhatsApp I wrote in October 2024 in the same library.
An older man and woman (early 70’s?) met in the library today and had a loud long recital of a Daily Mail comment section. Eventually I moved to the other side of the library, but could still hear the highlights, including:
* How much the head teacher and all the students praised her for telling school children they couldn't eat until they were all lined up in silence.
* A few years ago social services made it illegal to discipline children, and you're not even allowed to say no to them now days.
* Various countries that were better when the Brits were in charge.
* Lots about the need to bring back national service and how young people today would just cry.
* Young people and those she thinks are on benefits spend too much money on coffee and it's making it too expensive. Because she kept going on about it costing £4 I looked this up, and assuming that was true, that's actually a smaller percentage of the average weekly wage than it would have been for a woman in 1980 in full time where she'd earn 65% of a man's wage, but of course everything's getting worse today and people aren't young ladies like they used to be.
* Young people wouldn't ride bikes on the street if the police could give them lashes like in Singapore, and she'd like to ship most of these young people off to Singapore.
* When he was 14 he (his nephew?) was dragged out of bed to the market stall and told it was his job now, but young people today are too lazy.
* When he was younger if you knew martial arts or karate, the police had this recorded in their notebooks, and he saw his name and status once. It was "lethal weapon walking" or something like that. But he would never use his skills unless it was a war (queue another round on the need to bring back national service and how young people today would just cry and say it wasn't fair).
* He was raised to never hit a woman (quick reminder that the high court only ruled in 1991 that marital r**e was a crime) but he did beat up someone for insulting his mother, or his dad would have beaten him (she was very approving of this and that the police wouldn't do anything about it, and kept repeating 'of course now days...').
* She's too scared to walk in Hassocks. Nothing's ever happened, but it just doesn't feel like it used to.
* He wasn't invited to his daughter's wedding.