Beyond The Science Podcast

Beyond The Science Podcast Beyond the Science is a podcast that explores personal stories and challenges in Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA).

We bridge science with real-world experiences to foster inclusion, understanding, and actionable change.

10/14/2025

๐ŸŽ™ Beyond the Science x FABA Conference Series

Episode 36 with Dr. Shane Spiker is LIVE!

Dr. Spiker opens up about how his punk-rock roots taught him to question everything โ€” a mindset that now fuels his work as a behavior analyst, educator, and mentor.

He reminds us that real science is about curiosity, not compliance.
Itโ€™s about asking why, digging deeper, and challenging what we think we know.

๐Ÿ’ฌ โ€œBehavior analysis is a punk-rock science โ€” built by those who werenโ€™t afraid to challenge the mainstream.โ€

If youโ€™ve ever questioned the status quo, this episode is for you.

๐ŸŽง Watch now โ†’ https://youtu.be/TnQvGHIDZJE?si=w3LSyo_beUG1_npC

10/13/2025

๐ŸŽ™ Beyond the Science: FABA Conference Series

Episode 36 with ๐——๐—ฟ. ๐—ฆ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฒ ๐—ฆ๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐—ธ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ is one you donโ€™t want to miss.

Dr. Spiker discusses one of the most neglected areas in our field โ€” ๐˜€๐—ฒ๐˜… ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป ๐—ณ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ฑ๐˜‚๐—ฎ๐—น๐˜€ ๐˜„๐—ถ๐˜๐—ต ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐—ถ๐—น๐—ถ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐˜€.

From challenging bias to addressing how we teach consent and safety, this episode sheds light on a topic that too many professionals are afraid to tackle.

He emphasizes that most of our fieldโ€™s literature focuses on โ€œinappropriate sexual behavior,โ€ when the real issue is often context, not morality.
Dr. Spiker calls for more mentorship, collaboration, and open discussion โ€” and gives well-deserved shoutouts to ๐—•๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฏ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ฎ ๐—š๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐˜€๐˜€, ๐—ช๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐—ฟ ๐—Ÿ๐—ฒ๐—น๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ, ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—Ÿ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ฎ ๐—™๐—ผ๐˜… for their groundbreaking work.

๐Ÿ’ก If we want true inclusion, education has to include this conversation too.

๐ŸŽง Episode 36 drops tomorrow โ€” wherever you get your podcasts.

10/12/2025

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Beyond the Science x FABA Conference Series continues with Dr. Meeta Patel!

In this episode, Dr. Patel dives into the powerful connection between ๐—ด๐˜‚๐˜ ๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—น๐˜๐—ต ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐˜ƒ๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ฟ โ€” and why understanding a childโ€™s internal systems is key before starting treatment.

Her message is simple: if we want lasting progress, we have to look beyond behavior and focus on the whole picture โ€” body, mind, and environment.

๐Ÿ’™ Episode 35 is now streaming!
๐ŸŽง Watch here โ†’ https://youtu.be/H8zoKmdNVLo?si=XFXtOWETH9G4rEOC

10/11/2025

๐Ÿ’ก Progress doesnโ€™t stop when the session ends โ€” it continues at home.

In our latest ๐—•๐—ฒ๐˜†๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—ฆ๐—ฐ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ: ๐—™๐—”๐—•๐—” ๐—–๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ณ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐—ฆ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐˜€ episode, Dr. Meeta Patel discusses why true success in ABA and feeding therapy comes from collaboration with parents and caregivers.

When families understand, trust, and participate in treatment, children not only make gains โ€” they keep them. ๐Ÿ’™

๐ŸŽง Watch Episode 35 here:
๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿพ https://youtu.be/H8zoKmdNVLo?si=XFXtOWETH9G4rEOC

10/09/2025

๐Ÿฝ Finding the right starting point can change everything.

In this FABA Conference Series highlight, Dr. Meeta Patel explains why her program focuses on antecedent conditions instead of traditional functional analyses when treating feeding disorders.

By adjusting factors like food type, bite size, and environment, her team can keep emotional responding down and improve outcomes โ€” even in tough cases.

She also reminds us: itโ€™s okay to ask for help. If a case is outside your scope, collaborate or refer out.

๐ŸŽง Watch Episode 35 of Beyond the Science here:
๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿพ https://youtu.be/H8zoKmdNVLo?si=XFXtOWETH9G4rEOC

10/07/2025

๐Ÿฝ๏ธ ๐—ก๐—ฒ๐˜„ ๐—˜๐—ฝ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ผ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ ๐—ข๐˜‚๐˜ ๐—ก๐—ผ๐˜„!

In this FABA Conference Series episode, Dr. Meeta Patel โ€” founder of Clinic 4 Kidz and Stanford University faculty โ€” joins us to discuss the balance between ๐™–๐™ช๐™ฉ๐™ค๐™ฃ๐™ค๐™ข๐™ฎ ๐™–๐™ฃ๐™™ ๐™จ๐™ฉ๐™ง๐™ช๐™˜๐™ฉ๐™ช๐™ง๐™š when treating pediatric feeding disorders.

Dr. Patel explains that while Escape Extinction can be controversial, it can also be an essential component of care when used compassionately and clinically โ€” especially with medically complex children.

๐Ÿ’ก Her message: Balance is everything. Collaboration, empathy, and science must coexist.

๐ŸŽง Watch the full conversation here:
๐Ÿ‘‡๐Ÿพ https://youtu.be/H8zoKmdNVLo?si=XFXtOWETH9G4rEOC

10/06/2025

๐ŸŽ New episode coming tomorrow!

In our FABA Conference Series sit-down with ๐——๐—ฟ. ๐— ๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ฎ ๐—ฃ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—น, founder of Clinic 4 Kidz and Stanford University faculty, we explore what true collaboration looks like when helping children with feeding disorders.

Dr. Patel shares how success comes when ๐™—๐™š๐™๐™–๐™ซ๐™ž๐™ค๐™ง ๐™–๐™ฃ๐™–๐™ก๐™ฎ๐™จ๐™ฉ๐™จ, ๐™จ๐™ฅ๐™š๐™š๐™˜๐™-๐™ก๐™–๐™ฃ๐™œ๐™ช๐™–๐™œ๐™š ๐™ฅ๐™–๐™ฉ๐™๐™ค๐™ก๐™ค๐™œ๐™ž๐™จ๐™ฉ๐™จ, ๐™™๐™ž๐™š๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™–๐™ฃ๐™จ, ๐™–๐™ฃ๐™™ ๐™ข๐™š๐™™๐™ž๐™˜๐™–๐™ก ๐™ฅ๐™ง๐™ค๐™›๐™š๐™จ๐™จ๐™ž๐™ค๐™ฃ๐™–๐™ก๐™จ work together โ€” not in silos. Because real progress happens when care is connected. ๐Ÿ’™

๐ŸŽง Episode 35 drops tomorrow โ€” stay tuned!

10/04/2025

๐Ÿ’ฌ Who delivers care matters as much as how itโ€™s delivered.

In our final FABA Conference Series highlight with Dr. Merrill Winston shared why children feel safer when tough moments are handled by someone they know and trust โ€” whether itโ€™s a parent, teacher, or clinician. ๐Ÿ’™

This isnโ€™t about excusing restraint โ€” itโ€™s about centering safety, love, and dignity. When families understand the โ€œwhy,โ€ they know weโ€™re all on the same team.

๐Ÿ™๐Ÿพ Huge thank you to FABA - Florida Association for Behavior Analysis for letting us bring these important conversations to the community.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Episode 34 is LIVE now: https://youtu.be/pHPvKSErciA?si=aza8__QIXbfmd-Aq

10/03/2025

๐Ÿ’ก Who is really best prepared to help in a crisis involving someone with special needs?

In Episode 34 of our FABA Conference Series, Dr. Merrill Winston shares why behavior analysts may be better suited for these situations than law enforcement:

> โ€œIโ€™m not worried about getting killed when I work with someone with special needs, but some law enforcement are. And thatโ€™s another reason why weโ€™re really the best group suited to do this. It really canโ€™t be law enforcement. They need such special training.โ€

The point isnโ€™t to blame officers โ€” itโ€™s to highlight the need for specialized training, collaboration, and a focus on dignity and safety for vulnerable individuals.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Episode 34 is out now โ€” watch wherever you get your podcasts.

๐Ÿ“ Recorded live at with Florida Association for Behavior Analysis.

10/03/2025
10/02/2025

โš–๏ธ ๐— ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฒ ๐—ผ๐—ฟ ๐—œ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ?

In our FABA Conference Series, Dr. Merrill Winston explains how parents often view restraint:
๐Ÿ’ฅ Malice = โ€œYou donโ€™t like my child, so you restrained them.โ€
โŒ Incompetence = โ€œIf you knew what you were doing, you wouldnโ€™t need restraint.โ€

He challenges the field to stop chasing โ€œrestraint reductionโ€ as a goal. Instead, the focus must always be on reducing behavior problems, teaching skills, and improving quality of life. When that happens, restraint fades naturally.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Episode 34 is OUT NOW โ€” watch wherever you get your podcasts.

๐Ÿ“ Recorded live at in partnership with Florida Association for Behavior Analysis.

10/02/2025

โš–๏ธ ๐—ช๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒโ€™๐˜€ ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒ ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ๐˜๐˜„๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—ป ๐—ฝ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ฝ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ด ๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑ ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜?

In Episode 34 of our FABA Conference Series, Dr. Merrill Winston points out that what starts as a โ€œsimple promptโ€ can quickly become restraint โ€” and kids may be experiencing this all day long without it ever being recorded.

โœ… A light tap on the shoulder = prompt
โŒ Pressing down with force to keep someone seated = restraint

Even if thereโ€™s no visible harm, those moments matter. His message: letโ€™s be honest about whatโ€™s really happening.

๐ŸŽ™๏ธ Episode 34 is live now โ€” watch the full conversation. Link in comments!

๐Ÿ“ Recorded live at with Florida Association for Behavior Analysis.

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