04/29/2026
Korby's godmother has a line that's become famous in his family: "Our greatest assets taken too far become liabilities." The impulse to shoulder the burden, to provide, to make life easier for the people around you by taking it all on yourself — that's actually a good thing. But to do it constantly at the expense of yourself is probably a good way to die young.
Jordan Ritter Conn, author of American Men, takes it further: men have to treat their friendships, their looser community ties, their emotional well-being like they matter. Not as luxuries. Not as rewards for being productive. As things that impact the way you show up in every other part of your life.
The full conversation covers Jordan's five-year process of interviewing 50+ men about the things they don't talk about, the permission structures men need before they'll be vulnerable, and what changed in his own friendships after writing the book.
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