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The Space Between Podcast Have you ever thought about the fans behind the band?

Welcome to The Space Between Podcast—a show dedicated to the people, stories, memories and moments that make the Dave Matthews Band community so special.

NEW Episode ALERT! Guest Ryan Maher shares his favorite memories about being a fan of DMB. From solo shows in the 90's t...
09/10/2026

NEW Episode ALERT!
Guest Ryan Maher shares his favorite memories about being a fan of DMB. From solo shows in the 90's to sharing the music with his son, Ryan reminds us all of how music can be the soundtrack of your life.
Available now on any app or on YouTube.

So excited to be in today’s drop in Sports Illustrated 🍌I’d love for you to read it, link in first comment!
09/04/2026

So excited to be in today’s drop in Sports Illustrated 🍌
I’d love for you to read it, link in first comment!

TWO new episodes available on all podcast apps & on YouTube.Follow the show to hear hundreds of fellow Dave Matthews Ban...
08/26/2026

TWO new episodes available on all podcast apps & on YouTube.
Follow the show to hear hundreds of fellow Dave Matthews Band fans share their journey through the years with DMB.

🎉 **WE HAVE A WINNER!** 🎉The Space Between Podcast PIT Ticket Giveaway winner is… **John Rozsnyai** 🙌🎟️John’s entry stoo...
08/26/2026

🎉 **WE HAVE A WINNER!** 🎉
The Space Between Podcast PIT Ticket Giveaway winner is… **John Rozsnyai** 🙌🎟️
John’s entry stood out because it was more than just an explanation of why he loves Dave Matthews Band. He told a story about what this music has meant across the different seasons of his life — the highs, the hard moments, the adventures, the friendships, and the memories that came from simply showing up to hear the music live.
He talked about how concerts can become so much more than concerts. They can help us grow. They can connect us with people we never would have met otherwise. They can give us a place to process grief, celebrate life, take chances, and sometimes even head to a show alone and come home with a whole new story.
That is exactly what **The Space Between Podcast** is about.
John’s creativity, his willingness to really tell his story, and his genuine passion for DMB made his submission stand out. It reminded me why documenting the people *around* this band matters just as much as documenting the shows themselves.
So John… **YOU’RE GOING TO THE PIT!** 🔥
John will receive one PIT ticket to see Dave Matthews Band at Mystic Lake Amphitheater in Minnesota on August 31, along with a The Space Between Podcast shirt to wear at the show.
Thank you to EVERYONE who took the time to submit a video and share a piece of your DMB story with me. Watching these entries was such a reminder of how many different roads can lead us to the same music and the same incredible community.
Now watch John’s winning entry (link below) and you’ll understand exactly why we chose him. 💗
Congratulations, John! We can’t wait to see that selfie from the PIT!
**The Space Between Podcast**
*Music. Fans. Community.*

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🎉 **WE HAVE A WINNER!** 🎉The Space Between Podcast PIT Ticket Giv...

We will see you in DENVER beginning this Thursday-Sunday. Look for the podcast as we walk through the crowds and collect...
08/25/2026

We will see you in DENVER beginning this Thursday-Sunday. Look for the podcast as we walk through the crowds and collect “fan speak”!

This is incredibly written.
08/23/2026

This is incredibly written.

Couch Tour: The Show You Never Went To

How a phone taped to a sign, a new livestreaming app and a few obsessive Dave Matthews Band fans helped build a virtual concert venue nearly 50,000 people strong.

By .DMB (.DMB on TikTok and Instagram)

On a summer night when Dave Matthews Band is on tour, there are two audiences.
The first is easy to see.
They are packed into amphitheaters from West Palm Beach to Camden, Raleigh to the Gorge. They paid for tickets, fought traffic, stood in merchandise lines and waited through the familiar pre-show hum for the lights to go down.

The second audience is harder to find.
They are sitting on couches and back decks. They are watching from hotel rooms and kitchens. Some have mirrored a cellphone feed onto a television. Others are staring at a screen small enough to fit in one hand.

They may be hundreds or thousands of miles from the stage.

And yet they are waiting for exactly the same thing.

What song is next?

On a good night, hundreds of them may be gathered inside the same Facebook livestream. Sometimes the number approaches 1,000. Comments race alongside the video as viewers identify songs from the first few notes, celebrate rarities, complain about setlists, greet old friends and wonder aloud what Dave Matthews is going to play next.
They call themselves Couch Potatoes.
The place they gather is DMB Couch Tour, a Facebook community that has grown to nearly 50,000 members.

And the entire operation ultimately depends on something wonderfully primitive: Somebody inside the concert has to hold up a phone. For hours. For free.
There is no production truck. No director. No camera operator. Sometimes the picture is beautiful. Sometimes the signal disappears. Sometimes the person streaming sings directly into the microphone. And sometimes somebody watching for free has the audacity to complain about it.

But night after night, the phone goes up.

Why?

The answer begins in Austin, Texas, in May 2015, with an engineer, a brand-new app and a cellphone taped to the back of a sign.

Before There Was a Couch 🛋️

Dave Matthews Band fans were sharing concerts long before anybody knew what a livestream was. The band’s permissive relationship with taping helped create an enormous ecosystem of audience recordings. Microphones went up at shows. Recordings were traded, copied, downloaded and archived. Entire communities formed around preserving performances.

The technology evolved, but the basic impulse didn’t: I was there. You weren’t. Let me share it with you.
But there was always a delay. You could listen to last night’s show tomorrow. You could study the setlist. You could download the recording. What you couldn’t easily do was sit in North Carolina while Dave Matthews was performing in Texas and experience the uncertainty of that concert at exactly the same moment as the people standing inside the venue.
Then, in the spring of 2015, Periscope appeared.

The livestreaming app was barely weeks old when the Dave Matthews Band summer tour opened in Austin on May 13. Noam Yemini had flown there from Miami that morning.

His plans were unconventional even before the concert entered the picture. A friend had bought a new RV, leaving an old one available, and Yemini figured he might live in Austin for a few months, maybe a year, and see what happened.

He was also exactly the kind of person likely to recognize what Periscope might become. Yemini is an engineer - an audio engineer, too. He had been experimenting with the new app and was already part of the DMB taping community. On the morning of the concert, he made a decision: He would stream the show.
There was no grand plan to change DMB fandom. No elaborate equipment package. At the venue, Yemini found a central location near a railing and a sign. He hadn’t brought a tripod, so he taped his phone to the back of the sign. Because he happened to carry a second phone for work, Yemini could watch his own Periscope broadcast from that device while the first phone pointed toward the stage.

Then the viewers started arriving. A few hundred. Then more. Eventually, Yemini remembers more than 1,000 people watching.

They couldn’t believe what they were seeing. A complete Dave Matthews Band concert was happening right now, and they were watching it from wherever they happened to be. Yemini remembers recognizing the significance immediately. “You knew at the moment that it was a cultural shift,” he says.

There is something fitting about the person at the center of that moment being a taper. The lineage is almost too perfect: Tape. CD. Download. Stream. Same band. Same fans. Same desire to share.
Only now, for the first time, everybody could be there together.

A Canadian Builds a Room 🇨🇦

At almost exactly the same time, hundreds of miles away, Paul Nusbaum was thinking about a related problem. Nusbaum, a Canadian DMB fan, had spent years attending shows around Toronto and participating in the online ecosystem surrounding the band: setlists, message boards, social media groups, the endless speculation and post-show analysis familiar to anyone who follows DMB closely.

He knew about the tapers and loved having access to old shows, but listening later, he says, didn’t quite “scratch the live experience itch.” Then Periscope arrived. During the opening Texas shows of the 2015 tour, Nusbaum noticed DMB fans experimenting with the app. Noam Yemini was, as Nusbaum puts it, “absolutely there right at the beginning.”

But Nusbaum’s idea wasn’t simply to stream concerts; he wanted to build the room around the stream. Instead of DMB fans hunting across the internet for links, there could be one central place to find them. And while everyone watched, they could do what DMB fans were already obsessed with doing anyway: Talk about the setlist.

So in May 2015, Nusbaum created a Facebook group: DMB Couch Tour.
“I thought to myself it would be great to have one central source to share links and get more of the fan community involved,” he says. He asked several DMB friends to help. Periscope links started appearing. Fans started watching. And then they started talking. A lot.

Nusbaum remembers the first S**C (Saratoga Performing Arts Center) weekend that summer as the moment he understood that something unexpected was happening. An official show thread generated roughly 1,000 comments, by his recollection. The stream was ostensibly the product, but the people were becoming the experience. “The members,” Nusbaum eventually realized, were what made Couch Tour “magical.”
That distinction would become important. Because five years later, the concerts disappeared - and Couch Tour didn’t.

When There Was No Tour 😢

The summer of 2020 should have rendered a group called dMb Couch Tour temporarily pointless. There was no normal Dave Matthews Band tour. No nightly setlist. No fan standing in a pit searching for enough cellular bandwidth to broadcast “Two Step.”

But the community remained active. Musicians and fans played virtual quarantine performances. Members continued interacting. The infrastructure built to gather people around concerts became a place for people to gather without them.

For Kelli Archibald, Couch Tour arrived at exactly the right time. She discovered the group during the pandemic. The world was shut down. She had recently moved and was going through a breakup. A fifth-row ticket she held for Merriweather Post Pavilion had become useless when the show was canceled.

Then 2021 came, and circumstances prevented her from touring. “DMB and CT got me through that year,” she says. Archibald became what the group affectionately calls a Couch Potato….an extremely committed one.

When DMB releases its tour schedule, she puts every show into her calendar - with the proper time zone. Other than concerts she has attended herself, Archibald says she hasn’t missed a streamed Couch Tour show from 2021 through 2026. There have been reunions and wedding receptions where one AirPod remained discreetly in her ear.

Eventually, the people whose names she knew from the screen became people she met in real life. Then the viewer became the streamer. In 2022 and 2023, Archibald streamed shows herself, an attempt to “give back and pay forward” what strangers had provided when she couldn’t be there.

Then the circle came around again. In 2023, members of the DMB community began helping Archibald get to shows she hadn’t expected to attend. People offered tickets. Rides. Places to sleep. Even flights and airline miles.

She tried saying no. They kept offering. “That is not just a community,” Archibald says. “That is a family.”

The Guy Holding the Phone 📱

It is easy to romanticize Couch Tour when you’re the person lying on a couch.

Warren Schubert knows the other side.
Schubert lives in Seattle and has become one of the familiar streamers within the community. He originally recorded shows for himself and uploaded videos to YouTube. Friends introduced him to streaming. He tried it, then he kept doing it.

Schubert was far from alone. Longtime streamers such as Suzanne Zwerle and Megan Allen were broadcasting full shows years before Couch Tour streaming became as organized as it is today, sometimes drawing audiences numbering in the thousands.

Schubert describes the act almost as volunteer work. He thinks about people who cannot attend because of physical limitations, social circumstances or money. “The couch is the only way they get to see this band,” he says.

But before Schubert can provide almost three hours of free entertainment to hundreds of strangers, he first has to get there. For East Coast shows, that can mean a Thursday night red-eye from Seattle, an early-morning landing, a rental car, lodging and then the concert. And sometimes another concert.

Schubert recalls one trip that involved flying to St. Louis, driving to Cincinnati for a show, spending the night there, then driving back to St. Louis for the next one. This summer he flew to Raleigh, attended the show, drove to Virginia Beach for the following night’s concert, then returned to Raleigh to fly home. He sometimes books an Airbnb beginning the night before he arrives simply so that after an overnight flight he can immediately shower and sleep rather than wait for a hotel room to become available.

Then comes the easy part: Holding a cellphone in the air for an entire Dave Matthews Band concert.

Schubert carries a large backup battery and multiple cables. He’s had phone covers 3D-printed to allow him to grip the device without obstructing areas that might affect reception. He manages screen brightness because a bright screen annoys the people around him and generates additional heat. Heat can affect the phone. Signal can vanish. When it does, he may restart the device or work through a dozen settings trying to restore the connection.

And he still has to watch the concert.
Schubert prefers being two to four people back from the rail. It reduces neck strain and, he believes, putting a few rows of fans between the phone and the stage makes the Couch Tour viewer feel more like part of the crowd.

He shifts his feet.

Changes hands.

Tries to stay steady.

Tries not to sing too loudly.

“I take streaming very seriously,” he says, “almost like a profession.”

He is not getting paid.

Please Stop Complaining About the Free Concert 🆓

Krista Berg has been around Couch Tour since its early days as an administrator. She rarely streams an entire show herself. There is a simple reason: “I sing, scream and dance too much,” she says, “so I leave streaming for others so I don’t annoy people.”

That might be the purest explanation of what a streamer sacrifices. A person buys a concert ticket and then voluntarily changes the way they experience that concert so strangers can experience it too. And those strangers occasionally complain.

“One of the more frustrating things is when people complain about a FREE stream,” Berg says. Signal. Sound. Camera angle.

The Couch Tour administration tries to protect streamers from that pressure. Be yourself, they tell them. Enjoy the concert. Ignore the complainers.

Aaron Holley understands the pressure. He also understands the person sitting at home. Holley remembers what Couch Tour meant when he couldn’t attend shows himself. He remembers searching for streams and being grateful somebody was willing to provide one.

His own streaming career began unexpectedly in Raleigh in 2022. Another streamer passed out. Holley jumped in. Once he starts broadcasting, Holley says he feels an obligation to continue. Streaming means fewer bathroom trips. Less drinking. Less dancing. Hours of holding the phone.

And occasionally it creates a particularly absurd interaction with the band. Holley has been close enough to make eye contact with Dave Matthews while streaming. Matthews is performing. Holley is standing there, expression focused, holding a cellphone.

Holley swears Matthews sometimes looks confused.

Minor DMB Celebrities 🙌

Something else happens when you repeatedly become the window through which hundreds of people experience concerts. People recognize you.
Holley began noticing strangers recognizing him at shows. Schubert receives messages from fans asking which concerts he’ll attend because they want to meet him. Berg once had someone yell: “Are you Krista Berg from Couch Tour?” Her friends still make fun of her for it.

Even I once had someone mistake me for Aaron Holley at a DMB concert and try to buy me a b**r to thank me for streaming. I had to disappoint her.

But I understand both sides of this particular transaction. I watch Couch Tour regularly myself. Many nights, my patio in North Carolina becomes my seat for whatever venue DMB happens to be playing that evening. I’ve also streamed one complete show. And, in an appropriately Couch Tour twist, the ticket I used came from Kelli Archibald.
She’d found an even closer spot in “The Pit”. The one she sold me happened to be almost perfect for streaming. So I held up the phone. Other people sat on their couches. The circle continued. I didn’t have the same resolve as Aaron though. I even took the viewers on a brief tour of the venue during the show while I picked up another cold brew!

There’s No Comparison to Being There 🤷

Jimmy Walker has attended more than 100 Dave Matthews Band concerts. He also routinely watches Couch Tour when he can’t attend. But ask him whether staring through someone else’s cellphone makes him feel as though he’s actually at the concert and he won’t play along.
“There’s no comparison to actually ‘being there,’” Walker says.

He’s right. A phone speaker cannot reproduce an amphitheater. A Facebook comment cannot reproduce the person standing beside you when the band explodes into the song you’ve been chasing for 20 years.

But Walker still finds himself at work on show days thinking about what will happen that night. There’s a show tonight. He wants to know what comes next. DMB’s constantly changing setlists turn every transition into a tiny suspense story. And if a rarity suddenly appears, Walker isn’t reading about it tomorrow. He’s watching it happen. With hundreds of other people.

He has met people through those livestream conversations whom he later met in person. Couch Tour, he says, can be an icebreaker. Not a replacement for the concert. Something else.

💃

Spend enough time in the Couch Tour chat and certain names become familiar. Archibald is one of them. So are her emojis. Lots of them.

🔥💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻🔥

She became so associated with filling Couch Tour chats with dancing emojis that Facebook apparently decided, on more than one occasion, that she’d danced enough. Her account was temporarily restricted. Couch Tour responded in the only reasonable way: .

It’s silly. It’s also revealing. Communities develop their own language. Their own jokes. Their own characters. Eventually you notice when someone isn't there.
Archibald is also famously fond of “Warehouse.” Earlier this summer, Holley was streaming when DMB began playing it. He knew exactly what was about to happen in the chat. “Go crazy Kelli Archibald,” he said from inside the venue.
At home, Archibald heard him. The timing mattered. She had recently lost a family member and had received other difficult news. Suddenly, somebody inside a Dave Matthews Band concert was speaking directly to her through a stream being watched by hundreds of people.
Archibald says she felt transported. More importantly, she felt “hugged, known, thought of, accepted and loved.”
At that point, the phrase Facebook livestream begins to feel inadequate.

The Show Was Only the Beginning 🎶

When Paul Nusbaum created DMB Couch Tour in May 2015, the premise was wonderfully practical. Stop making everybody hunt for Periscope links. Put them in one place. Talk about the setlist. Watch together.
Eleven years later, the technology that started it is gone. Periscope itself shut down years ago. Facebook became the primary streaming platform. Other commercial livestreaming options appeared. The machinery changed.
Couch Tour remained. It survived a year without a normal DMB tour. It grew from a small group into a community approaching 50,000 members. People who met in its comments have met at concerts.

Streamers became recognizable.

Viewers became streamers.

Friends began watching shows together in backyards.

People offered one another rides and tickets and places to sleep.

The cellphone was merely the doorway. Warren Schubert calls streaming a form of volunteering. Aaron Holley feels a responsibility once he pushes the button. Jimmy Walker insists nothing replaces actually being there. Kelli Archibald says Couch Tour feels like home. And Paul Nusbaum remembers simply wanting a central place where everyone could find the show.

Maybe that’s still what he built.

On the next DMB show night, somewhere inside the venue, somebody will check the battery percentage one last time. They’ll make sure the signal is holding. The lights will go down. The crowd will rise.
And so will the phone.

Hundreds or perhaps a thousand miles away, another crowd will begin appearing beneath it, one name at a time. Somebody will ask what they think the opener will be.

Somebody will recognize a friend.

Somebody will complain about the signal.

Somebody will tell them to stop complaining.

And somewhere in there, almost certainly, Kelli will start dancing.
🔥💃🏻💃🏻💃🏻

Nearly 50,000 people came to DMB Couch Tour looking for the show. The remarkable part is what they found while they were waiting for the next song.

Each other.

08/10/2026
🚨 New Episode Alert 🚨This week, I’m joined by John Bertollo for a conversation about the memories, music, and community ...
08/08/2026

🚨 New Episode Alert 🚨
This week, I’m joined by John Bertollo for a conversation about the memories, music, and community that have shaped his life as a Dave Matthews Band fan.
John takes us back to his earliest memories of hearing about DMB and shares how curiosity turned into a growing passion for the music. From there, we talk about what so many of us discover along the way—the incredible community of fans, the friendships built around the band, and the feeling of being part of something much bigger than a concert.
We also revisit some of John’s favorite live-show memories, the moments that have stood out through the years, and what keeps bringing him back show after show.
At its heart, John’s story is another reminder that being a DMB fan is about more than the setlists. It’s about the memories we collect, the people we meet, and all of the space between.
Episode 214 featuring John Bertollo is available today on all podcast apps and YouTube.

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