Deep Transformation Podcast: Self - Society - Spirit

09/06/2026

Alexander Love: "...Now I can see it. I can see my shadow. It came into light, but now I have to embrace it."

🎙️ Episode 241
Transmuting Life’s Tragedies: Embracing a Post-Tragic Perspective, with Alexander Love

🎧 https://deeptransformation.io/alexander-love-transmuting-lifes-pains-embracing-a-post-tragic-perspective/

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Trailer Transcript:
..We have a lot of awareness about a lot of things, but we still eat the whole bag of potato chips when we didn't want to.

Awareness is essential in the transformative process. But I'm sure many of us have experienced we have a lot of awareness about a lot of things, but we still eat the whole bag of potato chips when we didn't want to. Or we still get into arguments where we get triggered when we thought we got over that. And I noticed over the years, many of the folks I've worked with, they come in with a lot of awareness about a lot of patterns. They know themselves inside and out, and yet they're still miserable. And often that's because the next phase, what I like to call the arc of transformation, the next phase of transformation requires from that distance. Now I can see it. I can see my shadow. It came into light, but now I have to embrace it.

09/03/2026

“It’s not forgive and forget… It’s remember deeply. Become so intimate with what happened, feel every aspect of it, and let it be transformed by love.”

🎙️ Episode 241
Transmuting Life’s Tragedies: Embracing a Post-Tragic Perspective, with Alexander Love

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A deeply engaging conversation in which Alexander Love, adult development expert and coach, and author of the soon-to-be-published trilogy Evolutionary Gestures, introduces us to the post-tragic perspective, with all of its potential to nourish, ground, and open us to a world of possibilities. Alexander explains that post-tragic is not a developmental stage per se, but a dimension available to anyone willing to do the work. It’s part of a triad—pre-tragic innocence, tragic disillusionment, and post-tragic possibilities—encountered in every wisdom tradition, the hero’s journey, and every good story. Post-tragic is not about leaving the tragedy (trauma, pain, loss) behind, but about turning toward it and dropping into a dimension of being that can interface with it in a new way, from a place that isn’t divided or broken. It’s also about asking, what happens next, after the tragedy? How does the story proceed?

Shattering our certainty, a tragic event in our lives makes our world more diaphanous, Alexander continues, opening the way for us to lean further into the mystery. Here we encounter the vastness of possibility, the mystery being the first imagined wholeness, the seed of all potentiality, and we begin to see the sacred and the beauty in everything. Though the healing notion of facing our trauma and working through it is not new, Alexander’s pre-tragic, tragic, and post-tragic framework (deeply informed by his own experience) is compelling. With it, he has painted in the entire landscape around the core tragedy or trauma, giving us the full picture, the before and after, and connected us with a dimension of compassion and forgiveness that is liberating and full of promise. A wise, gentle, intense, warm, humble conversation. Recorded April 23, 2026.

09/01/2026

“Each path takes a human being deeper, vaster, bigger places… each particular logos can be seen as an expression of the optimizing force of the universe and logos.”

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In the final dialogue of the A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series, Many Truths, Many Teachings: Why Spiritual Paths Unveil Reality Differently, A. H. Almaas (Hameed Ali) gives a fascinating account of how and why every spiritual teaching has its own unique logos, each one leading us to a fundamentally different inner experience and realization. Recorded July 16, 2026.

Topics in this episode:
• Every spiritual teaching has its own particular logos, or logic
• All paths do not lead up the same mountain or to the same realization
• In cracking the code of the logos, the mystery of the teaching is revealed
• What differentiates the logos of the Diamond Approach?
• Finding the wisdom path that speaks to you

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08/30/2026

A. H. Almaas (Hameed Ali): "...a particular person needs to find the right teaching for them. There might be more than one that will speak to them, but it's not like they pick anything that will work for them because their soul wants to flow through particular logos, through particular order, through particular logic of experience."

🎙️ Episode 240
Many Truths, Many Teachings: Why Spiritual Paths Unveil Reality Differently (A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series Dialogue 20)

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Trailer Transcript:

Fulfilling our destiny is for our soul or for consciousness to flow, to open up in that particular logos that is more appropriate for us. In some sense, people are different. Most people think, well, all human beings are similar, are the same. Whatever teaching they could adopt will work for them. But we find that's not the case. That a particular person needs to find the right teaching for them. There might be more than one that will speak to them, but it's not like they pick anything that will work for them because their soul wants to flow through particular logos, through particular order, through particular logic of experience. So when they find the right one, it clicks.

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08/27/2026

A. H. Almaas (Hameed Ali): "...Breaking the code is not the same thing as understanding a formula, solving an equation, or anything like that. It's more like through practice and familiarity and immersion. "

🎙️ Episode 240
Many Truths, Many Teachings: Why Spiritual Paths Unveil Reality Differently (A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series Dialogue 20)

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📺 Watch the FULL video conversations or 🎧 listen to the FULL audio only interviews of the A. H. Almaas Wisdom Series:

https://deeptransformation.io/a-h-almaas-wisdom-series/

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Trailer Transcript:

For that to happen, one has to break the code. The way I look at it, the logos of a teaching is not obvious. You can't get it exactly by reading or studying or listening to a talk. You could get some glimpses, some understanding, some experience. But that doesn't mean the logos will begin opening and unfolding and revealing its mysteries of the teaching. For that to happen, one has to break the code. Breaking the code is not the same thing as understanding a formula, solving an equation, or anything like that. It's more like through practice and familiarity and immersion. At some point a person gets the sense, gets what this teaching about. What does this particular logos view of reality? How does it look at things and allow insight in it? And it's not like there's one experience we call we're breaking the code. It's more a succession of experiences and insights, in conjunction with the practices that, at some point, we get a knack of it.

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08/25/2026

“Each path takes a human being deeper, vaster, bigger places… each particular logos can be seen as an expression of the optimizing force of the universe and logos.”

🎙️ Episode 240
Many Truths, Many Teachings: Why Spiritual Paths Unveil Reality Differently, with A. H. Almaas (Hameed Ali)

🎧 https://deeptransformation.io/a-h-almaas-wisdom-series-20-many-truths-many-teachings-spiritual-paths/

Co-host Roger Walsh found the novel concepts that A. H. Almaas presents in The Inner Journey Home’s Appendix G so intriguing, he asked Hameed for one last discussion to complete Deep Transformation’s systematic exploration of Hameed’s magnum opus. In Appendix G (and in this conversation), Hameed says that while there are many valid paths of awakening, different paths do not culminate in the same realization or experience. In other words, the Chinese proverb that says there are many ways to the top of the mountain, but the view is always the same is not accurate. Each spiritual teaching has its own logos, Hameed explains, its own “logic of experience and logic of practice that will naturally unfold the consciousness to open up to the secrets of reality and the depth of it, according to that particular logos.” This makes it possible for all different types of people, also from very different cultures, to “open to the perfection of reality in a way that liberates and makes sense to them.”

The logos of a spiritual teaching is not created by anyone, Hameed continues. This is reality practicing its intelligent, creative, and loving magic by manifesting through an individual or community to provide us with different ways of realizing true nature. When we find the right path, the teaching will “click,” Hameed says, and with time and practice, we may crack the code of the logos of our chosen path and fulfill our spiritual destiny. The conversation weaves in and out of the fascinating implications of Hameed’s teaching, clarifying why Eastern and Western spiritual teachings are so different, and what differentiates the logos of the Diamond Approach. In wrapping up, Roger and John acknowledge that their intensive study of The Inner Journey Home provided them with a transmission—and a transformation. Hameed agrees; by deeply contemplating this book, he says, we open ourselves to the transmission, to the understanding and experiencing of what is presented. Recorded July 16, 2026.

08/22/2026

“When we step into our power, we can revolutionize longevity.”

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Dr. Kerry Burnight explains how we can step into our power and live a joyful second half of our lives by letting go of our “decline mindset” toward aging and countering our own internal ageism, with Dr. Roger Walsh & John Dupuy on the Deep Transformation podcast.

Topics in this episode include:
• Changing the way we think about aging
• What gets better with aging?
• The “growth aging mindset” versus the “decline aging mindset”
• The critical need to protect elders’ access to housing & healthcare
• Revolutionizing longevity: practicing the 4 pillars of aging

Dr. Kerry Burnight: “When we step into our power, we can revolution...

08/19/2026

Dr. Kerry Burnight: "...because when we step into our power, we revolutionize longevity."

🎙️ Episode 239
From Lifespan to Joyspan: Embracing a Growth Mindset for Aging, with Dr. Kerry Burnight

🎧 https://deeptransformation.io/dr-kerry-burnight-lifespan-to-joyspan-a-growth-mindset-for-aging/

Visit the episode page for a summary, timestamps, and links to resources mentioned.

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Trailer Transcript:
..because when we step into our power, we revolutionize longevity.

So I think I would leave your brilliant accomplished listeners with this. When thoughts come into your mind that are unkind to yourself about aging, when you think, "Oh, I'm having a senior moment," or, "Am I really losing it?" Or, "Oh my gosh, I have 12,000 chins," or, "Wow, my stomach is hanging over my pants." to counter those thoughts, to counter those thoughts, with like, yes, there will be changes and also there are these things that I—like Roger said—my emotional stability, my way of navigating, my interest in other people's over my own interest... I wouldn't trade that for the world! So, to counter these internalized ageist thoughts that older is not good or that you are somehow less than, because when you step into your power, we can revolutionize longevity.

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08/15/2026

Dr. Kerry Burnight: "...because there's so much good in aging! It's just that it's not lucrative to talk about it."

🎙️ Episode 239
From Lifespan to Joyspan: Embracing a Growth Mindset for Aging, with Dr. Kerry Burnight

🎧 https://deeptransformation.io/dr-kerry-burnight-lifespan-to-joyspan-a-growth-mindset-for-aging/

Visit the episode page for a summary, timestamps, and links to resources mentioned.

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❤️ Our podcast is a labor of love funded solely by co-hosts Roger and John; these podcast episodes are not monetized. If you enjoyed this episode, please help us keep these meaningful conversations alive by supporting us through: https://deeptransformation.io/donate/

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Trailer Transcript:
..because there's so much good in aging! It's just that it's not lucrative to talk about it.

People often come up to me and they say, "Guess how old I am." And they really want me to guess a decade younger. And yet I don't ever think that they are not their age. And I'm delighted to say "84!" And then they make a face and I say, "And how wonderful that is." And yet this realization I don't think is going to come from younger people. I think the first step is to recognize our internalized age and ageism and then really step into it. So for example if somebody were to say, "You don't look 91," you say, "This is what 91 looks like," or when someone says, "Hello, young lady," I think, I am not a young lady nor would I want to be one because there's so much good in aging. It's just that it's not lucrative to talk about it. And so what counter revolution we could make by going to the research-based literature on what gets better as you get older.

08/08/2026

“When we step into our power, we can revolutionize longevity.”

🎙️ Episode 239
From Lifespan to Joyspan: Embracing a Growth Mindset for Aging, with Dr. Kerry Burnight

🎧 Listen to the episode:
https://deeptransformation.io/dr-kerry-burnight-lifespan-to-joyspan-a-growth-mindset-for-aging

Renowned gerontologist and author Dr. Kerry Burnight is passionate about changing the way we think about aging. Growing older isn’t a bad thing, she emphasizes, let’s look at what gets better as we get older! Early in Dr. Kerry’s career, she marveled at how elderly people with the same degree of physical health could be absolutely miserable or happily engaged with life, and she dug into finding out why. Her research revealed four pillars of aging that together make all the difference in the quality of our well-being. Kerry urges us to adopt these practices as soon as we can, because just like with cardiovascular training, the earlier we start, the more benefit we accrue. In fact, the evidence is clear: research shows that people who have a “decline mindset” about aging die an average of seven years earlier than their counterparts with a “growth mindset.” It seems our beliefs about aging can easily become self-fulfilling prophecies.

Finding joy in the second half of life involves not only cultivating connection and growth among other things, but also, very importantly, countering our own internalized ageism. Dr. Kerry gives some telling examples of common derogatory thoughts we have about ourselves as we age, and shows us how we can turn this around and step into our power as older people. In a moving testament to the special beauty and authenticity of the elderly, Kerry expresses gratitude for her opportunities as a gerontologist to be infused with the presence of her patients, in all their humility and greater appreciation of friendships, nature, music, art—of life itself. A poignant, lovely, illuminating, and inspiring conversation with someone who lives her talk and is making a meaningful difference in a culture that has lost its way in its approach to aging and caring for elders. Recorded September 18, 2025.