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Yes Day Inclusion Podcast We talk about disabilities, education, barriers, parenting, access, solutions, & all things inclusion

28/08/2025

We haven’t recorded an episode since March. We promise, we will very soon. It’s been 🔥. Xoxo Laura + Kirby

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24/07/2025

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My daughter started making enemies when she was two years old. Not because she was mean or malicious because she was autistic, and the world has never known what to do with children who don’t fit the mold. Daycare teachers. Other parents. Strangers in the grocery store. From the time she could barely speak in full sentences, people were already pushing her out.

She looked “normal,” whatever that means. She spoke well. She smiled and played. But her behaviors, her responses to overwhelm, her need to throw or scream to regulate her nervous system made adults uneasy. Made other kids’ parents whisper. Made gatekeepers say, “This just isn’t the right fit.” I have been in a constant battle with those gatekeepers ever since.

She’s a tween now, and the meltdowns have mostly faded. But she still doesn’t play the game. She doesn’t do social hierarchy. If you’re out of line—whether you’re a teacher, a peer, or a principal, she will tell you. Bluntly. And I admire that. Even when it causes problems, even when it costs her things other kids take for granted. Because she has a sense of justice that cuts through adult bu****it like a knife. She’s one of the most principled people I know.

There’s this one friend of hers, another firebrand. Together they’ve become “those girls,” the ones who are always “in trouble.” But if you ever stop to actually talk with them (really talk) you’ll see how much sense they make. How clearly they can explain their actions. How hard they are trying to be seen and understood. And I can’t squash that. I won’t.

I’ve been fighting for nine years…fighting to keep her included, to keep her in. She was kicked out of her final daycare at four. She’s never had a summer camp. Not one. She’s been kicked out of gymnastics, dance, sports, after-school programs. At some, she was mocked by other kids. At others, shamed by the adults who were supposed to support her. It still continues despite her growth and now for even the mildest of things that all kids do.

A few years ago, my friend Kirby and I launched a podcast to talk about all of it. Yes Day Inclusion Podcast To push for awareness, inclusion, and real strategies—not just lip service—to help kids like mine access the most basic of childhood rites. We weren’t just fighting for a seat at the table. We were fighting for childhood itself: for memories, for laughter, for belonging.

I always said I’d write a book. But I never started. Because the story wasn’t over. It still isn’t. But recently, something shifted. I found the angle. Or maybe the angle found me.

For years, my energy went into inclusion. Advocacy. Reform. I tried so hard to work within the systems to make it better. But after the events of this past year, I’ve had to reckon with a hard truth: sometimes the system is the problem. Sometimes the system doesn’t want to be fixed. And when it actively harms your child, you don’t keep sending her into the lion’s den. You take her hand, you build a new path, and you fight like hell to protect her.

That’s where I am now. Less interested in changing everyone else. More focused on creating spaces where she doesn’t have to mask. Where she’s not punished for being her full self. Where she is not just tolerated, but treasured.

I’ve written most of it already, 90% of the book. I’ve been out of that world for a while since getting my MFA in creative writing long ago. I just need an agent. A publisher. Maybe a viral moment and half a million followers would help too. 🤣

But more than that, I need the world to stop hurting kids like mine. I know I am not alone. teg

07/05/2025

Parent Passes. Which one do you need? All 3? 🙋🏻‍♀️

I read this article from The Hechinger Report claiming that the research on inclusion in special education is “flawed.” ...
05/04/2025

I read this article from The Hechinger Report claiming that the research on inclusion in special education is “flawed.” But honestly? That critique is flawed too — and it reflects the same tired misunderstanding of what inclusion really means and why it matters.

First of all, the article leans hard on standardized test scores to question whether inclusion is working. But when did we decide that test scores were the be-all and end-all of education? Standardized tests are known to be biased, narrow, and incapable of capturing the full picture — especially for students with disabilities. Inclusion isn’t about who fills in the right bubbles on a Scantron sheet. It’s about giving all kids the tools to thrive in life.

If we want to know if inclusion works, show me the real data — 10, 20, even 50 years down the line. How are these students doing in college? In their careers? Are they living independently, earning a living, contributing to their communities? Are they happy? That’s what education is supposed to prepare us for — not just passing a math test in 3rd grade.

Second, let’s talk about implementation. Inclusion can’t be judged fairly when it’s barely being done right. How many schools are doing inclusion without giving teachers the training and support they need? Too many. The truth is, most schools are trying to do inclusion on the cheap — without co-teachers, without proper planning, and with general education teachers who’ve never had meaningful training in special ed. Show me a study where every teacher is certified in special education or trained in inclusive practices. Then let’s talk about outcomes.

Until we build systems where every teacher is prepared to meet every student’s needs, inclusion will never get a fair shot. That’s not a failure of inclusion — that’s a failure of the system.

And one more thing: inclusion doesn’t just benefit students with disabilities. It helps all kids. It teaches empathy. It teaches collaboration. It helps students grow up with a better understanding of the real world — which is diverse, complex, and full of people with different abilities, perspectives, and needs. Why aren’t we measuring that?

Bottom line: The inclusion research isn’t the problem. Our expectations, our definitions of success, and our unwillingness to make real change — that’s the problem.

Analysis of 50 years of research argues that there isn’t strong evidence for the academic advantages of placing children with disabilities in general education classrooms

We recorded this a while ago but...here's an update!
07/03/2025

We recorded this a while ago but...here's an update!

In this episode, we’re back from our hiatus with updates on how the school year is going as our kids wrap up their final years of elementary school. We dive into the latest Gen A slang, discuss the importance of self-advocacy, and share some of the minor behavioral challenges we’ve encountered a...

28/01/2025

Being a special education parent is strange. We’re all advocating for our kids, but often in completely different ways.

Some are fighting for separation and every last service the school can provide. Others, like me, are fighting for our kids to be affirmed, accommodated, and supported as they are.

It’s not a one-size-fits-all journey, but at the heart of it, we’re all doing what’s best for our kids—and that’s something we can all respect.

22/10/2024
Special Episode:
27/09/2024

Special Episode:

We shared an article with AI and it created a podcast discussing that article: Rethinking Behavior in Education (Beyond ABA) This is a special episode that doesn't include Laura and Kirby's banter, but enjoy it anyway. AI is quite empowering for our kiddos! Disclosure: This is an experimental use of...

Tune in now for an episode packed with laughter, love, and lots of learning. Don’t miss out – Season 4, Episode 1 is ava...
02/09/2024

Tune in now for an episode packed with laughter, love, and lots of learning. Don’t miss out – Season 4, Episode 1 is available now! 🎧✨

In our very first episode of the season, we dive straight into some of the hottest topics on every parent’s mind! 🌟 Ever wondered if a back-to-back Disney vacation and cruise is just too much magic to handle? 🌴🎢 Find out if Kirby survived the whirlwind adventure, and hear all about her ti...

21/07/2024

Our organization advocates for these five principles. How about sticking them on your water bottle or computer to help spread the word? We have a new sticker in our shop! https://aasr.news/t1f

[ID: Black background with AASR logo at the top. A white speech bubble outlined in red with quotation marks has black and red text that reads, "We advocate for approaches
that follow five critical principles:

Trauma-informed &
Neuroscience-aligned &
Neurodiversity-affirming &
Relationship-driven &
Collaborative."

Quote attributed to Guy Stephens, Executive Director, AASR.]

"We need to create environments where everyone can thrive. Discrimination occurs when we demand that only those who are ...
18/06/2024

"We need to create environments where everyone can thrive. Discrimination occurs when we demand that only those who are different must change, rather than embracing mutual understanding and accommodation."

17/06/2024

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