Legally Speaking Podcast

17/07/2025

They’ve all shaped Jonathan Keen’s journey from City law firm associate to Senior Director of Legal at Figma, the design giant behind thousands of digital products.

On this week’s episode, Jonathan chat's to Robert Hanna to unpack:

🎯 The myth of the perfect legal career path
💡 Building processes that let sales self-serve legal
🇯🇵 Why his Legal Beagle Awards went global
🧠 What he learned at Harvard Law that still shapes his leadership

If you’re thinking of making the move in-house — or want to know how legal teams thrive in high-growth tech — this one’s a must.

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💬 What’s one habit that’s helped you grow your legal career?

14/07/2025

🔧 What does a Legal Director at one of the world’s most beloved tech brands really do?

From helping scale hypergrowth SaaS companies like Auth0 and Figma, to creating the “Legal Beagle Awards” (yes, you read that right) to build stronger sales–legal relationships, Jonathan Keen is all about making legal work human, fast, and collaborative.

In this episode of the Legally Speaking Podcast ™️, Jonathan speaks with host Robert Hanna about:

⚡ What it’s really like moving from City law to tech in-house
🌍 The secrets behind building Figma’s international legal team
💬 His top advice for in-house lawyers on balancing speed and compliance
✈️ And why getting out there is his golden rule for cross-border work

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11/07/2025

What happens when legal tech isn’t just your side hustle, it’s your whole mission?

On this week’s Legally Speaking Podcast, Robert Hanna is joined by Catherine Bamford, the legal engineer who helped define the role, built award-winning automation projects, and now leads BamLegal, a consultancy powering smarter legal service delivery across law firms, in-house teams, and ALSPs.

From working with major players like Pinsent Masons and Deloitte, to building new ways for clients to generate documents, review contracts, and actually enjoy legal work again - Catherine’s story is both inspiring and practical.

This episode explores:
✨ How to spot the best legal tech opportunities
✨ Why access to justice still drives her mission
✨ What she sees coming next for AI, law, and the role of lawyers

📢 If you're interested in legal transformation (or building a purpose-led business), this one’s for you.

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10/07/2025

“No one went to law school to manually change ‘has’ to ‘have’.”

In this episode of the Legally Speaking Podcast, Robert Hanna sits down with Catherine Bamford, founder of BamLegal, to talk about how automation, AI, and legal engineering are transforming law firms from the inside out.

Catherine walks us through her journey from real estate solicitor to one of the most respected names in legal tech, and gives a behind-the-scenes look at how even the most “bespoke” legal documents can be streamlined — without sacrificing nuance or quality.

We talk:
🔹 Document automation myths
🔹 AI’s role in modern practice
🔹 Why legal engineering is more marginal gains than overnight revolution
🔹 What the next generation of legal careers might look like

👂Whether you’re a curious law student or a seasoned partner wondering what’s next, this is one you don’t want to miss.

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💬 What’s one thing you’d automate in your legal workflow?

07/07/2025

What do you do when the legal work you’re doing starts to feel… repetitive?

If you’re Catherine Bamford, you lean in, ask better questions, and then build the solution yourself.

In this week’s episode of the Legally Speaking Podcast, Catherine shares her incredible story with Robert Hanna — from dropping out of school at 17, to becoming one of the first “legal engineers” in the UK, to founding BamLegal, a consultancy that helps some of the biggest names in law automate smarter and deliver better.

She’s not just talking tech for tech’s sake — she’s on a mission to reinvent the delivery of legal services for all.

🎙️ This one’s for anyone interested in legal innovation, entrepreneurship, or shaking up the status quo.

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07/07/2025

04/07/2025

🚨 When sanctions are breached, the stakes are high: multimillion-pound fines, regulatory scrutiny, and criminal risk.

In this gripping episode, David Savage, Partner at HFW, talks to Robert Hanna reveals what it’s like to:

⚖️ Navigate high-stakes global investigations
🕵️ Work across borders with the SFO, OFSI, DOJ & more
🧠 Stay curious and calm in crisis

He also shares why sanctions law is booming — and how tech, AI, and compliance are evolving fast.

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02/07/2025

💬 “As you get more senior, there’s a social contract — to create positive experiences for those coming up behind you.”

This week, we’re honoured to speak with David Savage, a leading Partner at HFW and Head of the firm’s LGBTQ+ network.

In this inspiring episode, David opens up to host Robert Hanna about:

✨ Bringing your full self to work
✨ Being a proud gay dad in law
✨ Why visibility and authenticity truly matter in leadership

🎧 Hear his brilliant story at the link in our bio!

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30/06/2025

🎧 “I never set out to become a sanctions lawyer - but I have absolutely no regrets.”

As Pride Month draws to a close, we’re celebrating the voices of openly LGBTQ+ leaders making an impact in law.

This week’s Legally Speaking Podcast guest is David Savage, Partner at HFW, sanctions expert, and proud gay dad. In this inspiring episode, David chats with Rob Hanna about:

🌍 How he built a niche in sanctions and financial crime
👨‍👩‍👦 His journey to parenthood via surrogacy
🌈 Why visibility, authenticity, and inclusion matter at every stage of your career

A brilliant listen for Pride and beyond!

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27/06/2025

📌 From barrister to senior partner — and everything in between

Rachael Heenan joined the show this week to talk to Robert Hanna about:

✨ How she overcame early self-doubt as a barrister
🧭 Why values-based leadership matters more than ever
🧰 The one skill that’s helped her build teams, not egos

Plus, practical advice for anyone aspiring to make partner — or wondering whether it’s the right path at all.

🎧 Give it a listen at the link in our bio and share your thoughts — is law firm leadership changing for the better?

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25/06/2025

💬 “Don’t be afraid to get professional help.” — Rachael Heenan

This week on the Legally Speaking Podcast, host Robert Hanna sits down with Rachael Heenan, Senior Partner at Capsticks LLP, mediator, coach — and self-confessed tech enthusiast.

They talk:
⚖️ How to build trust in legal leadership
🧠 Mental load, mindset and mentoring
📈 The future of law firms (and why AI doesn’t scare her)

If you’re looking for a fresh, human perspective on leading in law — this is it.

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23/06/2025

From carrying barristers’ bags to becoming Senior Partner at Capsticks, Rachael Heenan’s legal journey is anything but ordinary 🤩

In our latest episode, Rachael chats with Robert Hanna about:

✅ Her reflections on leadership and legacy
✅ The realities of being a carer while running a national law firm
✅ Why executive coaching changed her life — and could change yours too

Whether you're an aspiring lawyer or a senior leader, this one’s full of honest insights and hard-earned wisdom.

🎧 Tune in now at the link in our bio and let us know your biggest takeaway!

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