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14/09/2026

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Detectives Lenny Briscoe and Ed Green investigate the murder of a career criminal in a parking lot. While Ronny Buck's d...
14/09/2026

Detectives Lenny Briscoe and Ed Green investigate the murder of a career criminal in a parking lot. While Ronny Buck's death could have been a mob hit, it has the hallmarks of an amateur shooting. The detectives learn Buck was running a cleaning scam to rob businesses. One heist is connected to the unsolved murder of an electronics store owner. Briscoe and Green discover connections between Buck and the victim's wealthy widow, Lorraine Corbin.

ADA Serena Southerlyn learns Lorraine's daughter lied about her mother's alibi and that an unidentified woman paid Buck to have the store owner killed. Interim District Attorney Nora Lewin wants to try Lorraine for both murders, but the judge will only allow one at a time. As EADA Jack McCoy corners the defendant on the stand, she confesses instead to covering up her daughter's involvement in the shooting. But a boatload of trouble between mother and daughter is revealed.

We're talking about Law & Order season 12 episode 3 "For Love or Money." Our returning guest is Grishaverse creator, author of “Shadow and Bone,” “Six of Crows,” “Ninth House,” and the upcoming “Dead Beat” Leigh Bardugo.

This episode takes some cues from the 1982 case of Werner Hartmann

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04/09/2026

How Leigh Bardugo handled a childhood bully. (Hear more from Leigh on the latest episode of These Are Their Stories)

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