13/09/2025
It would seem that Charlie Kirk was assassinated for not being conservative enough. Or that’s where all the evidence is pointing. Fancy that. He was TOO LIBERAL. The guy who said Black people were better off as slaves and that trans people should be lynched 1950’s style.
When this whole mess started back in January, my words of hope were to look for the cracks. Fascism always tears itself apart.
When people seek after absolute power—whether they be fascists, authoritarians, theocrats, or what not—every person involved has their own individual idea of what absolute power looks like. That means those perceptions often conflict or outright contradict each other.
Authoritarians never compromise and they don’t negotiate. They can’t. Compromising means they have to relinquish the idea of absolute power. So, naturally, when these ideologies conflict, they can become explosive really quick.
Back in January, it was Musk and Trump. Their partnership was not going to last long and their breakup was inevitable. It was just a matter of time.
Kirk met the same fate, except he didn’t survive it.
Yesterday, I wrote up a piece explaining how Kirk used the boiling tar pits hidden in the darkest parts of the internet to recruit young white men on college campuses into white supremacist and nationalistic political standings.
If you missed it, I recommend pausing here to read that first. What comes next will make more sense if you do.
https://hmbeisswenger.substack.com/p/charlie-kirk-the-great-debater
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Now you know how the right-wing uses the internet’s underbelly to target young white boys. It is no mystery as to why most shooters in America come from those tar pits.
Kirk’s alleged shooter came from a very specific section of those forums that hated Kirk for being too moderate and not strong enough of a MAGA man. They considered him to be a "fake conservative."
The shooter was a 22 year old, white boy from Utah who was raised Mormon, was deeply conservative, and who’s father worked in law enforcement. It’s also been said his dad is a minister, but I wasn’t able to confirm that.
It’s textbook.
This kid was exactly the kind of person Kirk worked so hard to radicalize. The goal is to get young white boys between 15-25 years old to fill the streets with violence. They use stochastic terrorism to encourage white kids to point their weapons at minorities.
Except people like Kirk never expect those same boys might turn the weapons on him. He found himself in one of those rifts where someone else had a different idea of fascism. Mainly that of Nick Fuentes.
So let’s talk about Groyper.
Nick Fuentes is an alt-right influencer and live streamer who promoted all the typical stuff you’d expect. Antisemitism, white nationalism, conservative Christianity, conspiracy theories… the list goes on.
Fuentes started a loosely defined online organization called the Groypers. They try to do what Kirk did.
They promote these toxic ideologies to young white boys online and try to get into the limelight of public discourse so they can make their ideologies mainstream. Except these people are extremely critical of mainstream conservatives. They don’t think prominent Republican voices are extreme enough. That they are weak and watered down versions of what they should be.
It’s kind of like the proverb “there's always a bigger fish” except we’re talking about radicals and extremists. There’s always someone more extreme.
In 2019, there was an incident where Groypers clashed with Turning Point USA (the organization that Charlie Kirk headed). One of Turning Point’s ambassadors was seen with Groypers who were trying to use Turning Point as a means of dragging themselves into the limelight. Right Wing Watch got involved and Turning Point basically said, “Hell no, GTFO.”
At the time, Turning Point was still condemning white supremacy.
At least publicly. Let’s not whitewash it here. Kirk was a deeply racist, white supremacist. There’s no hiding that.
Anyway, Fuentes tried several times to confront Charlie Kirk, but never got past security which made Fuentes very mad. As time passed, Fuentes started prompting his followers to go to Kirk’s debates and ask extremely provocative questions on controversial issues. The goal was to force Kirk to out himself as a “fake conservative.”
There was a lot of animosity that festered between then and now. Charlie Kirk became one of their primary enemies.
So the alleged shooter was a Groyper.
We know this (or at least strongly suspect) because of the way people who dwell in the internet’s underbelly speak. I mentioned in the other post how there are certain speaking patterns and phraseology that are commonly used that can be traced back to various subcultures within those forums.
But since it’s also the internet, it also means their speech is steeped in meme culture. The shooter carved several phrases on his bullet casings, all of which referenced Groyper memes and internet slang.
He was mocking Kirk as a fake conservative with the very bullet he used to kill him. The poetic irony in this situation is something fiction writers spend years trying to master.
BUT…
And here’s where it gets dangerous.
Conservative politicians aren’t going to go with a complex narrative of “We are tearing ourselves apart.” They need something simpler that they can turn into a 3 second soundbite that can rally their supporters and target minorities.
One of the casings was marked with “Hey fascist, catch this!”
Again, this was to mock Kirk as not being fascist enough. But that hasn’t stopped certain politicians from pinning blame on antifa and calling it “anti-fascist ideology" in order to target liberals and Democrats.
This still has the potential to ignite the powder keg that people like Kirk have been packing for years.
