07/02/2025
Cult & Culture Podcast Transcript
https://youtu.be/myKWoGUcS9g?si=7WiJ9FOP6hk7Bwgi
**Person 1:**
Like, aliens, yeah.
**Person 2:**
Oh, dude. So I was watching Neil deGrasse Tyson, and he was talking about the difference between
humans and our closest ancestors--chimps, right?
**Person 3:**
Yes, chimps.
**Person 2:**
Chimps are 98% human. Exact same DNA--98% match. Small, small difference. But when we look
at chimps, and when a chimp is able to do something, like clap or smile or do a somersault or exhibit
any basic, toddler-level behavior, we find it cute. It's quaint. But it's also **condescending**--we
condescend a lot toward the animal kingdom, especially chimps.
**Person 1:**
Yeah, we see them through our own limited perspective.
**Person 2:**
Exactly. Humans can't think outside of what they know. Years ago, in the early 1700s or 1800s,
scientists--these were the most advanced thinkers of the time--believed that **Jupiter was home to
an advanced race of sailors**. Like, the most incredible ships ever created, more advanced than
anything on Earth.
**Person 3:**
Wait, what?!
**Person 2:**
Yeah, and now we think that's absolutely ridiculous. But back then, **ships were the peak of
technology**, so that's all they could imagine.
**Person 1:**
So when we imagine aliens now, we think of spaceships.
**Person 2:**
Exactly. Because **spacecraft** are the most advanced thing **we** know. But alien life? It could be
**so advanced that we can't even begin to comprehend it**.
**Person 3:**
Like, if an alien species was just **2% more advanced than us**, everything we've ever created--our
technology, our history, our culture--would be **completely laughable to them**.
**Person 4:**
Yeah, we'd be like chimps to them.
**Person 2:**
Right! So that kind of **blew my mind**. If something is so advanced that we **can't comprehend it,
we can't even perceive it**.
**Person 3:**
Yeah, like, we're stuck in these **third-dimensional filters**.
**Person 1:**
Exactly. We can't see beyond our reality. For all we know, **we might be hanging out with dead
people right now** and just not realizing it.
**Person 4:**
I actually kinda think we are.
**Person 3:**
So how would you communicate with an alien?
**Person 1:**
Through your kid?
**Person 3:**
I don't know. But you know what's weird? Aliens seem to be **fascinated by music**. From what I've
read and heard, there's some connection.
**Person 4:**
Maybe he's **already communicating with them through music**.
**Person 1:**
Yeah, maybe. But honestly, if an alien **walked into the room right now**, I probably wouldn't wanna
talk about drums.
**Person 3:**
(laughs) No?
**Person 1:**
Nah, I'd probably try to **ease into it with some surf music** or something. Just, like, feel-good
vibes.
**Person 2:**
Would you tell them you love them?
**Person 1:**
I don't know, man. My **basic instinct** would be to **freak out**. But I also know that's just human
nature. **Fear of the unknown.** So I'd try to **keep it together**, be cool, and be peaceful.
**Person 3:**
That makes sense.
**Person 1:**
Yeah, because humans **instinctively lash out** at things they don't understand. That's our
default--**fight or flight**. But if an alien walks in, I don't wanna be that guy who **panics and ruins
first contact**.
**Person 4:**
So you'd communicate with **absolute conviction and confidence**.
**Person 1:**
Yeah. **Confidence equals safety and truth**. Just **be cool**.
**Person 3:**
Yeah, the **coolest people** I know are the **most confident ones**. You can always spot the
cowards.
**Person 1:**
That's how I try to be **whenever I meet anyone**. Just **be as cool as possible**.
**Person 4:**
Can you communicate that **without drums**?
**Person 1:**
I don't know, man. I feel like **music is the only real form of communication**. It goes beyond
**language, gender, age--**it speaks in ways we **can't even comprehend**.
**Person 2:**
Especially aggressive music. People think, "Oh, this is negative." But it's not.
**Person 1:**
Yeah, unless the band is, like, nihilistic or something. But **aggression in music doesn't mean
negativity**.
**Person 3:**
Yeah, people **react with fear** because it's **fight or flight**. It's that **primal, caveman mentality**
kicking in.
**Person 1:**
Exactly. It's like **reptilian brain mode**--just reacting, no thinking.
**Person 2:**
So, what's your take on **Planet B**?
**Person 3:**
Man, that's a whole other conversation...
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