What Goes Around Podcast (2025)

10/07/2025

Our guest today is a drummer, percussionist and songwriter who cut his teeth on the St Helens cabaret circuit, at just 13 years old. However that would prove to be a world away from the groundbreaking career he would pursue in the world of Post-Punk and alternative rock. Peter Clarke is better known professionally under the name of Budgie. A self taught timekeeper, his unique style has lent itself to the likes of The Slits, Big in Japan, The Creatures and of course imperial phase of Siouxsie and the Banshees. Over the last 40 odd years Budgie has laid down the rhythm for alternative music and now he has written a book about his life, his journey through the music industry and most importantly his understanding of self. The Absence is much more than a rock n roll diary its an honest exploration of the factors that drove him from obscurity to fame and the very edge of control. It's an honest and unflinching look at a life that until now has only ever been glimpsed from the outside. We are delighted to welcome the musical pioneer that is Budgie to the show.

Before all that Deb gets caught sneaking out of a film premier by Pauline Black and then has a smashing time with Phillip Glass.

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/what-goes-around/id1508554549?i=1000716556824

15/05/2025

NEW EPISODE!
Richard Fearless is one of the UK's most enigmatic DJs and Producers and his Death in Vegas project is back with a brand new album 'Death Mask' (their 7th) on Drone Records this June.

As a DJ Richard played a pivotal role in some of the countries most forward looking club nights from the infamous 'Job Club' in the early 90s alongside the likes of Claude Young, Dave Angel and Andrew Weatherall to a stint at the controls of 'The Heavenly Social' with the Chemical Brothers and latterly working alongside Daniel Avery at The Pickle Factory's 'Goo' nights.

His Dj style is eclectic and visceral with casual disregard for genre specifics Richard developed a gritty style which served him well in terms of setting the tone for his fantastic Death in Vegas project.

From the break out success of the seminal track 'Dirge' to the uncompromising sound of the new album 'Death Mask' Richard's music is always innovative and excitingly experimental. We are delighted to welcome Richard Fearless of 'Death in Vegas' to the podcast.

Before that though, Eamon turns to the digital dark side at last....

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27/03/2025

Our guest today is a maverick of music, an agent provocateur whose visually arresting image, razor sharp humour and mentally challenging music helped forge that most enduring of sub-cultures; 'Goth'. Back in the early 1980s when the post-punk counter culture embraced film noir and turned the technicolor of glam into a more sinister monochromatic look, festooned with spider webs, skulls and too much eye-liner Nik Fiend was one of the original bad-taste makers at London's The Batcave club. 'Alien S*x Fiend' along with 'The Specimen' and 'S*x Gang Children' made regular appearances at the infamous Batcave. Together they helped establish the look and feel of the early Goth scene in the south, where the likes of Nick Cave, Siouxsie & the Banshees, Bauhaus, Foetus, Robert Smith and even a freshly crimped and spiked Elizabeth Hurley were all regular attendees. The world has of course never been the same, and while music and fashion constantly evolve there is alway the reverberation of the gothic asthetic. Mr & Mrs Fiend continue to create and celebrate chaos around the world, finding success on US college radio, getting 'big in Japan' and spreading their tendrils throughout continental Europe. Uncompromising, often hilarious, always a little bit shocking Alien S*x Fiend are a national treasure who have been hidden in the basement for far too long.

Before we talk to Nik we do that thing we love to do, we talk about a completely different type of music! This month we are very pleased to speak to Alex Coles about his excellent book on Jazz Fusion. It is beautiful object and a fascinating discussion about how Jazz can be fused with all manner of musical styles and add to the overall effect. The discussion takes in Sinatra, Joni Mitchell, Charlie Mingus, Kendrick Lamar and Neneh Cherry.

We also set aside a few minutes to discussing the giant hole in Deb's flat.

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/what-goes-around/id1508554549?i=1000701113892

Alien S*x Fiend

27/02/2025

HELLO SERIES 5!

Today's guest today is a DJ, producer, composer and entrepreneur, Geoff Kirkwood. Professionally known as DJ Man Power he has built a solid reputation as an eclectic producer who nimbly steps between, Disco, House and Techno whilst casually stopping off along the way for grand scale projects, such as composing for the Royal Northern Sinfonia. His reputation as a DJ has seen him selected to curate a Radio 1 essential mix and allowed him to travel the world playing in legendary spots like Glastonbury, the Panorama bar in Berlin and Burning Man Festival in the USA. But perhaps the most important and interesting thing about this journey has been the way he has taken the culmination of these experiences and invested them in his home town of North Shields. Whether it is through breathing life into an old working mans club with his regular night 'Are you affiliated' or investing in a community hub close by, where creatives can collaborate and make their art on their terms, Geoff has kept his feet firmly on the ground whilst reaching for the stars and I am very excited to welcome DJ Man Power today on What Goes Around.

BEFORE THAT...

We talk to Patrick Clarke about his excellent new book about Soft Cell 'Bedsit Land'.

Deb gets the rap-beef update from Eamon and both of them decide that you should live your best life.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/6ZvBHpopmfkFA37PZEa1Vk?si=995ee0e8758443b1

19/12/2024

BRAND NEW POD!

The perfect pop star needs to have many attributes, rock solid songs, eye catching style, photogenic glamour and of course the type of personality that jumps off the page. Very few contenders manage to tick all of these boxes but when they do they make an impression on society that leaves an indelible mark. Alison Clarkson's alter ego Betty Boo had all these qualities in spades. Her music was magnetic, her style iconic and her personality projected confidence and rebellion, so much so that when the pop Svengali Chris Herbert decided to form the all conquering Spice Girls his brief was to find 5 Betty Boos. However Betty Boo was not the manufactured pop star you might expect, rather she was a determined young woman who studied audio production, wrote her own songs and fell in love with Hip-Hop at precisely the right time. After a period in the limelight Betty stepped back into the studio and continued to create music with the likes of Blur, Girls Aloud, Hear-say, Danni Minogue and Sophie Ellis-Bextor. Now back with a bang Betty Boo has a new album 'Rip up the rulebook' and her sound has matured but retains that dash of rebellious optimism that we all fell in love with back in the day.

It really is a pleasure to welcome the one and only Betty Boo to What Goes Around.

Before that Eamon gets infuriated about Stax Records and then finds refuge at a DONK Rave. Big love to Donk Stop Believin

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https://open.spotify.com/episode/43Uv3nXioSVjn57f8U04y1?si=d3afefffcb2e43b1

21/11/2024

We have a brand new podcast and it is jam packed with brilliant stories from the world of music.

There is an excellent film called 20 feet away from stardom that explores the world of the backing singer and how they flirt so near to the worlds of the pop megastar and yet always remain just out of camera shot, our guest today goes one better, often only a few feet away form the biggest names in show biz and yet nearly always in shot too. Colin G Paterson is the Arts & Entertainment Correspondant for the BBC and has worked as a presenter and journalist for over 20 years. From The Big Breakfast to 5Live to Glastonbury to the Oscars he has always been the man with the mic asking questions of the rich and famous and has done it all with wit and the sort of cheeky grin that gets answers. There are few people better placed to talk about the world of music from a fans point of view and that is why we are delighted to have Colin on the show today.

Plus we talk to Joe Mugford about his brilliant new book all about Londons top nightclub Fabric, and DJ Deb Grant plans her busmans holiday in the great city of New Orleans.

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25/10/2024

5 years of What Goes Around Podcast Blimey!

17/10/2024

Our guest today is a music lover, spiritual wanderer and managerial heavyweight in the music industry. Rikki Stein can lay claim to some extraordinary feats including promoting the likes of Jimi Hendrix, The Kinks, The Animals, The Grateful Dead, Gregory Isaacs and perhaps most notably Afrobeat pioneer Fela Kuti.

This stellar resume would provide plenty of content for any musical memoir but this is just the eye catching summit of the iceberg. Moving Music reveals the full story of Rikki's life and it is a fascinating spiritual journey which touches upon some of the most important cultural events of the last 50 years - Rikki appears Forest Gump like beside a plethora of newsworthy moments and cultural flashpoints.

Moving Music describes London in the swinging 60s, the effect music had in the European mainland, the blossoming of flower power in the USA from The Chelsea Hotel to Woodstock, to the bad trip of Altamont. He describes the early days of Glastonbury and how he embraced the mystical music of Morocco, hung out with Gurus and became friends with the legendary Fela Kuti. If Im honest I think we would need two shows to pack it all in so I am excited to welcome Rikki Stein to What Goes Around.

Before we talk to Rikki we chat to Pop aficionado Ian Wade on his brilliantly entertaining new book 1984 The year pop went q***r. We also spare a moment to talk about friend of the pod Ashley Beedle who has unfortunately fallen ill and needs a little help from his friends, Eamon and Deb are delighted to say his friends come through.

If you wish to make a donation to Ashley's ongoing medical expenses you can donate here:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/ashley-beedles-fundraiser-for-urgent-help-and-ongoing-care

27/09/2024

TONIGHT! Its my party and I'll be fly if I wanna.

12/09/2024

Today we welcome a godfather of the UK Techno scene to the podcast, Karl O Connor aka Regis is the co-founder of one of the UKs most important Techno labels 'Downwards'. Over the last 30 years Downwards has been the home of an authentic, serious and often punishing techno sound that has somehow managed to uplift and excite clubbers across the world without even so much as a nod to conformity. Established in the early 90s by Karl and fellow DJ and producer Anthony Child (aka Surgeon), Downwards cut its own path through the post rave club scene with a militant style of electronica that became know as the Birmingham sound, placing it geographically in the heart of the UK but also culturally in the same bracket as Detroit, Berlin and London. Techno is a futuristic medium that is not given to longevity but Karl's work proves that where there is dedication and authenticity the music can survive and flourish across generations. I am very pleased to speak with Karl O Connor and ask him to make me believe in Techno.

Before we go techno we return to Eamon's favourite subject; David Bowie. Adam Steiner has written an incredibly detailed book all about Bowie's seminal 1981 album 'Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps). The book is a fans dream as Adam goes on the deepest of dives into the mythology of one of Bowie's greatest works placing the record firmly in its time and place by discussing the world into which it was released.

Not only that but Eamon becomes a teacher for a day.

01/08/2024

Our guest today is an artist drawn to the abstract, an artist with no love nor concern with the mainstream*, an artist happily dismantling expectations around music and sound and creating some of the most extraordinary and powerful bass music in the known universe.

Kevin Martin's early recordings were abrasive industrial tracks that challenged the listener to stay the course. His work with Justin Broderick (formerly of Na**lm Death and Godflesh) came out under the moniker of Techno Animal and still sound as abstract and dangerous today as they did 30 years ago. However Martins sound continually evolved taking influences from Hip-Hop, Reggae and Dub until his current incarnation of The Bug was born.

The Bug released an incredible run of bass heavy tracks for Swamp 81, Ninja Tunes and Pressure Records. The Bugs 'London Zoo' album was heralded as a game changer in UK Bass music, bringing together some of the best MCs in the country such as Flowdan, Warrior Queen, Daddy Freddy, Tippa Irie and many more.

Kevin also recorded with King Midas Sound, Fennez and released a number of incredible ambient albums under his own name including his current release 'Black' a tribute to Amy Winehouse.

We are always looking out for people who totally commit to their music and that is why we are delighted to welcome Kevin Martin to the podcast.

Before that it's all Hot-Dogs and Gong-Baths.

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*(May have some love and concern for the mainstream).

20/06/2024

NEW POD! Today we welcome actress Helen Lederer to to talk about her new book 'Not that I'm bitter'. Also it's a special as we venture into Gay clubbing. All that plus tries to put the put the pieces of the puzzle together! https://open.spotify.com/episode/62zWaSX891NjuQdLs4DPgT?si=d8fecfc81f6e425e

Our guest today is a writer and actress who broke the mould as a stand up comedian in the first wave of Alternative comedy. Helen Lederer has appeared in some of the finest UK comedy shows over the last 40 years including Bottom, Absolutely Fabulous, Naked Video, French and Saunders, Girls On Top, The Young Ones and many, many more. She did stand up at a time when female comedians were few and far between and brightened up every single show she appeared in for decades. Helens new autobiography 'Not that I'm bitter' is a hilarious trip through accidents, apologies and awkward situations which never flinches and always brings a smile to your face. It is a real delight that we can welcome the brilliant Helen Lederer to 'What Goes Around'.

First off however we celebrate Pride month and take a journey into the world of Gay clubbing, we talk to Sy from The Phoenix about organising Bristol's Pride events and running an inclusive and friendly safe space for all in his pub. We also speak to Chris the resident DJ at DTYM 'Don't Tell Your Mother' one of Bristol's longest running Gay nights about community and longevity. To round things off we speak to the 'Girl on Girl' collective about their incredible le***an events which break the musical mould by offering futuristic club music from around the world in a safe and creative space.

Before all that Deb gets her tidy on and imposes order on some oddly shaped pieces of cardboard while Eamon looks on in awe.

It is a bumper episode to celebrate Pride month and because of the issues that it raises we would like to invite you to show support for the LGBTQ+ community by donating to our selected charities - The Albert Kennedy Trust (which helps LGBTQ+ people who have been made homeless) and Young Minds (who offer support and practical help for young people dealing with their mental health). We never ask for money for these shows but just for once we would appreciate any help you can give to these very important charities.

Donate here:

The Albert KennedyTrust
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Young Minds
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Thank you so much beautiful Pod people!

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