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21/08/2026

Atherstone responds to provocative comments made by Phillip Jensen about the dangers of “selling your soul” in order to move up the chain in the Anglican organisation.

Tune in to see Andrew Atherstone and Dominic Steele further discuss this, and other intriguing and divisive moments in Anglican history, at www.thepastorsheart.net/podcast/atherstone-dick-lucas-history

18/08/2026

‘Dick Lucas’ mind was blown apart’ – with Andrew Atherstone

1986. London’s Westminster Central Hall. The then young Australian preacher Phillip Jensen takes the platform at the Evangelical Ministry Assembly, and detonated UK Anglican Evangelicalism

Dick Lucas, the elder statesman of UK Evangelicalism Rector of St Helen's Bishopsgate, said his mind was "blown apart by these bold Australian exhortations."

Chris Green says a room full of ministers in training were "revolutionised overnight."

It's the third in our occasional series of specials on evangelical oral history.

We are with Dr Andrew Atherstone (Wycliffe Hall Oxford) and this time we trace how a Sydney rector's insistence on Bible teaching and the local congregation, over and above inherited Anglican structure made such an impact on the UK evangelical scene.

Jensen's 1986 and 1988 addresses didn't just inspire, but they gave a generation of English ministers permission to think differently about bishops, boundaries and where real spiritual authority lives.

https://www.thepastorsheart.net/podcast/atherstone-dick-lucas-history

‘Dick Lucas’ mind was blown apart’ – with Andrew Atherstonewww.thepastorsheart.net/podcast/atherstone-dick-lucas-history...
18/08/2026

‘Dick Lucas’ mind was blown apart’ – with Andrew Atherstone

www.thepastorsheart.net/podcast/atherstone-dick-lucas-history

1986. London’s Westminster Central Hall. The then young Australian preacher Phillip Jensen takes the platform at the Evangelical Ministry Assembly, and detonated UK Anglican Evangelicalism

Dick Lucas, the elder statesman of UK Evangelicalism Rector of St Helen's Bishopsgate, said his mind was "blown apart by these bold Australian exhortations."

Chris Green says a room full of ministers in training were "revolutionised overnight."

It's the third in our occasional series of specials on evangelical oral history.

We are with Dr Andrew Atherstone (Wycliffe Hall Oxford) and this time we trace how a Sydney rector's insistence on Bible teaching and the local congregation, over and above inherited Anglican structure made such an impact on the UK evangelical scene.

Jensen's 1986 and 1988 addresses didn't just inspire, but they gave a generation of English ministers permission to think differently about bishops, boundaries and where real spiritual authority lives.

www.thepastorsheart.net/podcast/atherstone-dick-lucas-history

11/08/2026

In it to win it—or quit now? with Andrew Atherstone

For evangelical Christians in the Church of England, the question of whether to stay, resist, or leave is a live crisis.

If you’re deciding whether to head into C of E ministry or carve out a path in independence, or if you’re a pastor navigating a "mixed denomination," how do you maintain gospel integrity when institutional leadership turns away from historic orthodoxy?

Church historian Dr. Andrew Atherstone (Wycliffe Hall, Oxford) to look back at six decades of evangelical oral history—and what it teaches us about our current crossroads.

We cover:
- The 1960s Crisis: Why ministers like Herbert Carson, Eric Lane, and Moshe Radcliff reached the breaking point and the intense personal cost of separation.
- Lloyd-Jones vs. Stott (1966) & Keele (1967): The iconic confrontation that defined the "in it to win it" strategy for a generation.
- The David Jenkins Stress Test: How a controversial bishop radicalized evangelicals to plant across parish lines and rethink financial support.

Dr Atherstone has been presenting on this at Sydney’s Moore College Lectures.

http://www.thepastorsheart.net/podcast/in-it-to-win-it-atherstone

In it to win it—or quit now? with Andrew AtherstoneFor evangelical Christians in the Church of England, the question of ...
11/08/2026

In it to win it—or quit now? with Andrew Atherstone

For evangelical Christians in the Church of England, the question of whether to stay, resist, or leave is a live crisis.

If you’re deciding whether to head into C of E ministry or carve out a path in independence, or if you’re a pastor navigating a "mixed denomination," how do you maintain gospel integrity when institutional leadership turns away from historic orthodoxy?

Church historian Dr. Andrew Atherstone (Wycliffe Hall, Oxford) to look back at six decades of evangelical oral history—and what it teaches us about our current crossroads.

We cover:
- The 1960s Crisis: Why ministers like Herbert Carson, Eric Lane, and Moshe Radcliff reached the breaking point and the intense personal cost of separation.
- Lloyd-Jones vs. Stott (1966) & Keele (1967): The iconic confrontation that defined the "in it to win it" strategy for a generation.
- The David Jenkins Stress Test: How a controversial bishop radicalized evangelicals to plant across parish lines and rethink financial support.

Dr Atherstone has been presenting on this at Sydney’s Moore College Lectures.

http://www.thepastorsheart.net/podcast/in-it-to-win-it-atherstone

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