It's Never About Money

It's Never About Money In the It's Never About Money podcast, host Joe Stephan interviews business owners who are pursuing

When it comes to success, there is a big difference between money and wealth. In It's Never About Money, host Joe Stephan interviews business owners who are pursuing deeper purpose and meaning in their life, rather than just chasing the dollar. Our guests put their values front-and-centre in business and are driven by making a positive impact in the world. Tune in to hear how their stories have un

folded and the key moments that got them there. Whether you are already pursuing meaning in your life or work, or wondering how the most successful are doing it, this podcast will encourage and inspire you to think differently, because Itโ€™s Never About Money. Joe Stephan is a Financial Planner with Stephan Independent Advisory, based in Melbourne, Australia: www.siadvisory.com.au

Itโ€™s Never About Money is powered by Stephan Independent Advisory: www.itsneveraboutmoney.com.au

23/02/2025

Itโ€™s funny how something someone said years ago can come back with so much added meaning later in life.

๐ƒ๐š๐ซ๐จ๐ง ๐Š ๐‘๐จ๐›๐ž๐ซ๐ญ๐ฌ is a highly reflective person, thatโ€™s for sure. In our conversation he reflected on a question that his father always used to ask him, โ€œ๐‘Šโ„Ž๐‘Ž๐‘ก ๐‘”๐‘Ž๐‘š๐‘’ ๐‘Ž๐‘Ÿ๐‘’ ๐‘ฆ๐‘œ๐‘ข ๐‘๐‘™๐‘Ž๐‘ฆ๐‘–๐‘›๐‘”?โ€

And although the question used to bug him, itโ€™s a question that has led him on his career path from law student, to ๐๐…๐‹ ๐œ๐จ๐š๐œ๐ก, to being named as a โ€œTop 20 Global Speakerโ€ in 2024.

๐“๐จ ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ž๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž, ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ ๐ญ๐จ:

๐Ÿ ๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/xtXzp3

๐ŸŽง ๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://linke.to/54JSo


19/02/2025

โ€œ๐‘Š๐‘’ ๐‘ก๐‘’๐‘›๐‘‘ ๐‘ก๐‘œ ๐‘–๐‘›๐‘“๐‘™๐‘Ž๐‘ก๐‘’ ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’ ๐‘–๐‘š๐‘๐‘Ž๐‘๐‘ก ๐‘œ๐‘“ ๐‘๐‘’๐‘œ๐‘๐‘™๐‘’ ๐‘คโ„Ž๐‘œ ๐‘‘๐‘œ๐‘›โ€™๐‘ก ๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘™๐‘ฆ ๐‘๐‘Ž๐‘Ÿ๐‘’โ€

Have you ever thought about who the people are in your circle, and who the people are in your corner?

Donโ€™t know what the difference is? Well, youโ€™ll have to listen to the latest episode with ๐ƒ๐š๐ซ๐จ๐ง ๐Š. ๐‘๐จ๐›๐ž๐ซ๐ญ๐ฌ. Daron is a former ๐๐…๐‹ ๐œ๐จ๐š๐œ๐ก and award-winning college professor. He is named as a โ€œTop 20 Global Speakerโ€ in 2024 and our conversation is definitely not to be missed.

๐…๐จ๐ซ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ž, ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž๐ง ๐ญ๐จ ๐„๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ— ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ˆ๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ:

๐Ÿ ๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/xtXzp3

๐ŸŽง ๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://linke.to/54JSo


This week on ๐ˆ๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ, I sit down with ๐ƒ๐š๐ซ๐จ๐ง ๐Š. ๐‘๐จ๐›๐ž๐ซ๐ญ๐ฌ - former ๐๐…๐‹ ๐œ๐จ๐š๐œ๐ก, award-winning college professo...
17/02/2025

This week on ๐ˆ๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ, I sit down with ๐ƒ๐š๐ซ๐จ๐ง ๐Š. ๐‘๐จ๐›๐ž๐ซ๐ญ๐ฌ - former ๐๐…๐‹ ๐œ๐จ๐š๐œ๐ก, award-winning college professor, and one of 2024's "Top 20 Global Speakers." With clients ranging from professional sports teams to Fortune 100 companies, Daron has a wealth of wisdom to share.

Together, we dive into his incredible journey from law student to NFL coach, to university professor, author, and keynote speaker - just to name a few of his titles. Daron opens up about navigating major life transitions, the power of authentic support, and the importance of aligning your career with your passions. This conversation is full of insights on personal growth, meaningful connections, and finding purpose. Don't miss it!

๐„๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ— ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ˆ๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ๐ฐ ๐š๐ฏ๐š๐ข๐ฅ๐š๐›๐ฅ๐ž ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ž๐š๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฏ๐ข๐š:

๐Ÿ ๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/xtXzp3

๐ŸŽง ๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://linke.to/54JSo


I am excited to announce that my next guest on ๐ˆ๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ is ๐ƒ๐š๐ซ๐จ๐ง ๐Š. ๐‘๐จ๐›๐ž๐ซ๐ญ๐ฌ.I will be talking to Daron all...
12/02/2025

I am excited to announce that my next guest on ๐ˆ๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ is ๐ƒ๐š๐ซ๐จ๐ง ๐Š. ๐‘๐จ๐›๐ž๐ซ๐ญ๐ฌ.

I will be talking to Daron all about his incredible journey from law student to ๐๐…๐‹ ๐œ๐จ๐š๐œ๐ก, to university professor, author, and keynote speaker - just to name a few of his titles. Daron opens up about navigating major life transitions, the power of authentic support, and the importance of aligning your career with your passions..

Watch this space for more information!

09/02/2025

โ€œ๐ผ๐‘ก โ„Ž๐‘Ž๐‘‘ ๐‘Ž๐‘› ๐‘’๐‘ฅ๐‘ก๐‘Ÿ๐‘Ž๐‘œ๐‘Ÿ๐‘‘๐‘–๐‘›๐‘Ž๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฆ ๐‘Ž๐‘“๐‘“๐‘’๐‘๐‘ก ๐‘œ๐‘› ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’ ๐‘˜๐‘–๐‘‘๐‘  ๐‘๐‘’๐‘๐‘Ž๐‘ข๐‘ ๐‘’ ๐‘–๐‘ก ๐‘ค๐‘Ž๐‘  ๐‘“๐‘ข๐‘™๐‘™ ๐‘ก๐‘Ÿ๐‘Ž๐‘›๐‘ ๐‘๐‘Ž๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘›๐‘๐‘ฆโ€

On this week's episode of Itโ€™s Never About Money, ๐๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ข๐ฉ ๐๐ซ๐ฒ๐จ๐ซ, CEO of ๐…๐š๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐‚๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ซ๐šl, shared a powerful story about family transparency.

He explained how a family council meeting where parents laid their wills on the table โ€“ literally โ€“ spurred open, honest conversations. This proactive approach helped the kids work together, avoid future conflicts, and thoughtfully manage their inheritance.

While not every family dynamic might involve laying their wills out on the table, Phil makes a great point: transparency can be an incredible tool for mediating conflict and fostering harmony.

๐“๐จ ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ž๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž, ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ ๐ญ๐จ:

๐Ÿ ๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/1Gu9c

๐ŸŽง ๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://linke.to/LylOIp


05/02/2025

โ€œ๐ผ ๐‘‘๐‘œ๐‘›โ€™๐‘ก โ„Ž๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘Ÿ ๐‘š๐‘Ž๐‘›๐‘ฆ ๐‘๐‘Ž๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘›๐‘ก๐‘  ๐‘ ๐‘Ž๐‘ฆ๐‘–๐‘›๐‘”, โ€˜๐ผ ๐‘ค๐‘Ž๐‘›๐‘ก ๐‘ก๐‘œ ๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘™๐‘ฆ ๐‘ ๐‘๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘ค ๐‘š๐‘ฆ ๐‘˜๐‘–๐‘‘๐‘  ๐‘ข๐‘ ๐‘ค๐‘–๐‘กโ„Ž ๐‘š๐‘ฆ ๐‘š๐‘œ๐‘›๐‘’๐‘ฆ.โ€™โ€

Leaving money for your children should be a positive, but it often brings up challenges like perceptions of fairness, equality, and unresolved family dynamics.

In this weekโ€™s episode I had a fascinating chat with ๐๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ข๐ฉ ๐๐ซ๐ฒ๐จ๐ซ โ€“ CEO and founder of ๐…๐š๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐‚๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ซ๐š๐ฅ โ€“ about the intersection of family and wealth, navigating fairness versus equality, and the importance of open, honest communication.

๐…๐จ๐ซ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ž, ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž๐ง ๐ญ๐จ ๐„๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ– ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ˆ๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ:

๐Ÿ ๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/1Gu9c

๐ŸŽง ๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://linke.to/LylOIp


This week on ๐ˆ๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ, I sat down with ๐๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ข๐ฉ ๐๐ซ๐ฒ๐จ๐ซ, CEO of ๐…๐š๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐‚๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ซ๐š๐ฅ, to dive deep into the...
03/02/2025

This week on ๐ˆ๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ, I sat down with ๐๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ข๐ฉ ๐๐ซ๐ฒ๐จ๐ซ, CEO of ๐…๐š๐ฆ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฒ ๐๐ฎ๐ฌ๐ข๐ง๐ž๐ฌ๐ฌ ๐‚๐ž๐ง๐ญ๐ซ๐š๐ฅ, to dive deep into the complexities of family dynamics and wealth.

We talked about the challenges of intergenerational succession, strategies for managing conflict, and how successful families use communication and values to thrive. Phil also shared incredible insights about balancing fairness, parenting with purpose, and leaving meaningful legacies.

Whether youโ€™re a family business owner or just looking to strengthen your family ties, this is an episode for you!

๐„๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ– ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ˆ๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ ๐ข๐ฌ ๐ง๐จ๐ฐ ๐š๐ฏ๐š๐ข๐ฅ๐š๐›๐ฅ๐ž ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ซ๐ž๐š๐ฆ๐ข๐ง๐  ๐ฏ๐ข๐š:

๐Ÿ ๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/1Gu9c

๐ŸŽง ๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://linke.to/LylOIp


I am excited to announce that my next guest on ๐ˆ๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ is ๐๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ข๐ฉ ๐๐ซ๐ฒ๐จ๐ซ.I will be talking to Philip all ab...
30/01/2025

I am excited to announce that my next guest on ๐ˆ๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ is ๐๐ก๐ข๐ฅ๐ข๐ฉ ๐๐ซ๐ฒ๐จ๐ซ.

I will be talking to Philip all about how family harmony and strong relationships are crucial to both business success and personal well-being. We explore themes like the interplay between money and family dynamics, the importance of fairness versus equality, and how to set foundations for meaningful legacies.

Watch this space for more information!

26/01/2025

โ€œ๐ผ ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘–๐‘›๐‘˜ ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’ ๐‘ก๐‘ค๐‘œ ๐‘œ๐‘ฃ๐‘’๐‘Ÿ๐‘คโ„Ž๐‘’๐‘™๐‘š๐‘–๐‘›๐‘”๐‘™๐‘ฆ ๐‘Ÿ๐‘’๐‘™๐‘’๐‘ฃ๐‘Ž๐‘›๐‘ก ๐‘™๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘‘๐‘’๐‘Ÿ๐‘ โ„Ž๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘ ๐‘ก๐‘ฆ๐‘™๐‘’๐‘  ๐‘“๐‘œ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘Ž ๐‘โ„Ž๐‘Ž๐‘–๐‘Ÿ ๐‘Ž๐‘Ÿ๐‘’ ๐‘ ๐‘’๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฃ๐‘Ž๐‘›๐‘ก ๐‘™๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘‘๐‘’๐‘Ÿ ๐‘Ž๐‘›๐‘‘ ๐‘’๐‘š๐‘๐‘Ž๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘ฃ๐‘–๐‘ ๐‘–๐‘œ๐‘›๐‘Ž๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฆ.โ€

๐‘๐š๐œ๐ก๐š๐ž๐ฅ ๐Œ๐œ๐‹๐ž๐ง๐ง๐š๐ง, CEO and Co-Founder of ๐๐ž๐จ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ž, shares her insights into leadership in the not-for-profit sector, highlighting the vital role of the chair.

From balancing commercial viability with participant needs to fostering empathetic, purpose-driven leadership, our conversation is full of so much value.

๐“๐จ ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ซ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐Ÿ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ž๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž, ๐ก๐ž๐š๐ ๐ญ๐จ:

๐Ÿ ๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/EGWfm

๐ŸŽง ๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://linke.to/rmT6


# PeopleForPurpose

22/01/2025

โ€œ๐‘๐‘œ๐‘๐‘œ๐‘‘๐‘ฆ ๐‘ค๐‘Ž๐‘  ๐‘ ๐‘–๐‘ก๐‘ก๐‘–๐‘›๐‘” ๐‘Ž๐‘ก ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’ ๐‘›๐‘’๐‘ฅ๐‘ข๐‘  ๐‘œ๐‘“ ๐‘ฃ๐‘’๐‘Ÿ๐‘ฆ โ„Ž๐‘–๐‘”โ„Ž ๐‘™๐‘’๐‘ฃ๐‘’๐‘™ ๐‘™๐‘’๐‘Ž๐‘‘๐‘’๐‘Ÿ๐‘  ๐‘ ๐‘๐‘’๐‘๐‘–๐‘“๐‘–๐‘๐‘Ž๐‘™๐‘™๐‘ฆ ๐‘“๐‘œ๐‘Ÿ ๐‘กโ„Ž๐‘’ ๐‘›๐‘œ๐‘›๐‘๐‘Ÿ๐‘œ๐‘“๐‘–๐‘ก ๐‘ ๐‘’๐‘๐‘ก๐‘œ๐‘Ÿโ€

๐‘๐š๐œ๐ก๐š๐ž๐ฅ ๐Œ๐œ๐‹๐ž๐ง๐ง๐š๐ง, CEO and Co-Founder of ๐๐ž๐จ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ž, explains how they bridge the gap between charities and exceptional talent.

By connecting leaders, helping them navigate the sector, and ensuring their impact is maximised, People for Purpose are driving incredible change in Australiaโ€™s non-profit landscape.

๐…๐จ๐ซ ๐ฆ๐จ๐ซ๐ž, ๐ฅ๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž๐ง ๐ญ๐จ ๐„๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ• ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐ˆ๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ:

๐Ÿ ๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/EGWfm

๐ŸŽง ๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://linke.to/rmT6


# PeopleForPurpose

I love it when we get to dive into the incredible work happening in the not-for-profit space, so Iโ€™m excited to share th...
20/01/2025

I love it when we get to dive into the incredible work happening in the not-for-profit space, so Iโ€™m excited to share this conversation with ๐‘๐š๐œ๐ก๐š๐ž๐ฅ ๐Œ๐œ๐‹๐ž๐ง๐ง๐š๐ง!

Rachael is the ๐‚๐„๐Ž ๐š๐ง๐ ๐œ๐จ-๐Ÿ๐จ๐ฎ๐ง๐๐ž๐ซ of ๐๐ž๐จ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž ๐Ÿ๐จ๐ซ ๐๐ฎ๐ซ๐ฉ๐จ๐ฌ๐ž, who have spent over a decade championing leadership and governance in Australian charities. Sheโ€™s also been instrumental in growing private philanthropy through her time as the founding CEO of Australian Philanthropic Services.

In this episode, we talked about her journey, the power of mentorship, and what it takes to create impactful organisations. Rachael also shared how she balances leading in social impact with being a mum to three kids and pursuing her MBA.

This is a fascinating conversation for anyone interested in leadership, philanthropy, or making a difference!

๐„๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ• of ๐ˆ๐ญโ€™๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ is now available for streaming via:

๐Ÿ ๐€๐ฉ๐ฉ๐ฅ๐ž: https://linke.to/EGWfm

๐ŸŽง ๐’๐ฉ๐จ๐ญ๐ข๐Ÿ๐ฒ: https://linke.to/rmT6


# PeopleForPurpose

I am excited to announce that my next guest on ๐ˆ๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ is ๐‘๐š๐œ๐ก๐š๐ž๐ฅ ๐Œ๐œ๐‹๐ž๐ง๐ง๐š๐ง.I will be talking to Rachael a...
15/01/2025

I am excited to announce that my next guest on ๐ˆ๐ญ'๐ฌ ๐๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ซ ๐€๐›๐จ๐ฎ๐ญ ๐Œ๐จ๐ง๐ž๐ฒ is ๐‘๐š๐œ๐ก๐š๐ž๐ฅ ๐Œ๐œ๐‹๐ž๐ง๐ง๐š๐ง.

I will be talking to Rachael all about her inspiring journey into philanthropy, her experiences as the founding CEO of Australian Philanthropic Services, and her insights on how strong leadership can transform charitable organisations. We delve into the significance of governance, the role of mentorship in empowering young people, and the growth of private philanthropy in Australia.

Watch this space for more information!

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