04/09/2026
JOIN THE eCPR COMMUNITY | WALES & SCOTLAND ❤️
What happens when people who were once told that schizophrenia meant lifelong disability go on to recover, build meaningful lives and help change how we respond to emotional crisis?
Dr Daniel Fisher MD PhD and Andrew Dugmore MSc share extraordinary stories of psychosis, recovery, research and advocacy in this CWS conversation.
Daniel experienced psychosis, including catatonia, was hospitalised and diagnosed with schizophrenia. He later trained as a psychiatrist, co-founded the National Empowerment Center and helped develop Emotional CPR (eCPR).
Andrew experienced psychosis, psychiatric hospitalisation and long-term medication. Today he is a mental health educator, researcher and the first eCPR trainer in Wales. His recovery includes peer support, human connection, meditation, nature, spirituality and family.
❤️ EMOTIONAL CPR | eCPR
eCPR grew from lived experience of profound emotional distress and recovery:
C — Connecting: presence, compassion and deep listening.�P — emPowering: reconnecting people with agency, strength and capacity for healing.�R — Revitalizing: returning to relationships, meaning, community and a fuller life.
Daniel brought eCPR to Scotland, where Andrew undertook training to become a trainer. In spring 2025, Daniel and Andrew delivered the first eCPR training of this initiative in Wales.
NOW WE WANT TO BUILD THE COMMUNITY FURTHER.
If you are in Wales or Scotland and want to participate, support future training, help organise or contribute to the developing eCPR community, GET INVOLVED.
📧 eCPR Wales: [email protected]�📧 Andrew Dugmore: [email protected]�📧 Dr Daniel Fisher: [email protected]
CWS | Conversations With Svend presents the full two-hour conversation:
eCPR WALES | STORIES OF HOPE | PSYCHOSIS | RECOVERY | DR DANIEL FISHER MD PhD | ANDREW DUGMORE MSc
YouTube 9 SEPTEMBER | 9 PM UK TIME.
A diagnosis does not define a human being or determine their future. Recovery, connection and hope matter.
❤️ eCPR WALES | STORIES OF HOPE | RECOVERY
Thank you to Dr Daniel Fisher and Andrew Dugmore for sharing their lived experience, knowledge and extraordinary stories of recovery.
This conversation explores psychosis, psychiatric diagnosis, recovery, peer support, spirituality, nature, Open Dialogue, human connection and the fundamental importance of hope.
Daniel Fisher, MD, PhD brings the unusual perspective of both lived experience and more than four decades as a psychiatrist, clinician, advocate and leader within the international recovery movement.
After experiencing psychosis, catatonia, psychiatric hospitalisation and a diagnosis of schizophrenia himself, Daniel went on to co-found the National Empowerment Center and help develop Emotional CPR.
Andrew Dugmore experienced psychosis more than four decades ago and speaks about hospitalisation, long-term medication and being given a deeply pessimistic prognosis.
His subsequent life became a story of recovery, education, research, spirituality and service.
Andrew is now a mental health and wellbeing educator, mindfulness teacher, MSc Mental Health Recovery, PhD Candidate and the first eCPR trainer in Wales.
❤️ EMOTIONAL CPR
C — Connecting�P — emPowering�R — Revitalizing
eCPR is grounded in presence, deep listening, human connection and supporting people to reconnect with their own agency and capacity for recovery.
🌱 eCPR WALES
Daniel brought eCPR to Scotland, where Andrew travelled repeatedly from Wales to train with him and undertook the substantial experiential apprenticeship required to become an eCPR trainer.
In spring 2025, Daniel and Andrew delivered the first eCPR training of this new initiative in Wales, supported locally by West Wales Action for Mental Health, including Angie Darlington.
I was fortunate to participate in that training myself.
Andrew has since been speaking with Nicola and Lacey about developing another Emotional CPR training in Wales and creating an ongoing community around the practice.
If you are in Wales, have Welsh connections, would like to participate in a future eCPR training, support its development, help organise a training or become part of the developing community, please make contact:
📧 eCPR Wales:�[email protected]
📧 Andrew Dugmore | Mental Health Ways:�[email protected]
📧 Dr Daniel Fisher:�[email protected]
ANDREW DUGMORE
Mental health and wellbeing educator�Mindfulness teacher�MSc Mental Health Recovery�PhD Candidate�Mental Health Ways
Instagram: �Twitter: �Tel: 07801 579225�Facebook:�https://www.facebook.com/mhways2019/
❤️ EMOTIONAL CPR
https://emotional-cpr.org/
Introduction to eCPR:�https://youtu.be/j1-k_ntaVVs
NEC Vision for the Future – Community Dialogue:�https://youtu.be/g0nf5X8bcI4
🌐 NATIONAL EMPOWERMENT CENTER
https://power2u.org/
YouTube:�https://www.youtube.com/
🎬 EMOTIONAL CPR AWAKENS OUR HEARTS
Daniel Fisher and the development of Emotional CPR are also explored in the documentary Emotional CPR Awakens Our Hearts.
The film has been selected for the Mad in Norway International Film Festival: Rethinking Mental Health, taking place in Lillehammer, Norway, 24–26 September 2026.
Festival information:
https://youtu.be/FANUuMVW6co?si=0d3WheHQD6_fp8nx�https://www.madinnorway.org/2026/05/klart-for-internasjonal-filmfestival-om-psykisk-helse-i-lillehammer/
The wider conversation explores Open Dialogue, peer support, alternatives to hospital-based responses, lived experience within mental health services and what might become possible when people experiencing extreme states are met first as human beings.
📖 HEARTBEATS OF HOPE | DR DANIEL FISHER
Heartbeats of Hope: The Empowerment Way to Recover Your Life�By Daniel Fisher, MD, PhD
National Empowerment Center:�https://power2u.org/store/heartbeats-of-hope/
Amazon.com:�https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07BFGYQXK
Amazon.co.uk:�https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=9780692764596
ISBN: 9780692764596
There are no simple formulas for recovery and no single path that applies to everyone.
However, Daniel and Andrew's lives carry an important message:
Even when somebody has lost hope for themselves, another human being can hold hope for them until they are able to rediscover it for themselves.
https://youtu.be/FANUuMVW6co?si=0d3WheHQD6_fp8nx
https://youtube.com/?si=UZOuGi0l0ESmi3wi
