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22/10/2025

what is the cause of voltage hunting?

5 posible reason of voltage hunting..

This is a classic and critical issue in marine engineering. Voltage hunting on a ship's generator is a sustained or dampened oscillation of the generator's output voltage (and often frequency), where the voltage constantly rises and falls instead of remaining at a stable setpoint (e.g., 440V).

It is almost always a symptom of a problem in the Automatic Voltage Regulator (AVR) feedback control loop.

In simple terms, the AVR is constantly "over-correcting." It sees a small voltage drop, injects too much excitation, sees the voltage go too high, cuts too much excitation, and this cycle repeats, causing the "hunt."

Here are the primary causes, categorized from most common to more specific:

1. Incorrect AVR Stability (Gain) Settings (The Most Common Cause)

This is the fundamental control theory problem. The AVR is a controller that needs to be "tuned" for the specific generator.

· Gain Set Too High (Proportional Band Too Narrow): If the AVR's gain is too high, it reacts too aggressively to tiny changes in voltage. This over-sensitive response is the direct cause of hunting. It's like an inexperienced driver constantly over-steering to stay in a lane.
· Instability Potentiometer Misadjusted: Many AVRs have a dedicated "stability" or "damping" potentiometer. If this is incorrectly set during commissioning or maintenance, it removes the natural damping from the system, allowing oscillations to build up.

2. Issues with the Sensing Circuit

The AVR can only be as good as the signal it receives.

· Loose Connections: Loose terminals in the voltage sensing lines from the main generator output to the AVR can cause intermittent signals, confusing the AVR and triggering corrective actions.
· Faulty Potential Transformer (PT): A failing PT can provide an inaccurate or noisy voltage signal to the AVR.

3. Problems in the Excitation Field Circuit

The AVR's commands are executed here.

· Loose Connections in the Exciter Field: Loose connections at the brushes, slip rings, or in the rotating rectifier assembly (on brushless generators) can create a variable resistance. This causes erratic changes in the main field strength, which the AVR then tries to correct, leading to instability.
· Worn or Sticking Brushes (on brushed generators): Poor contact or brushes that don't move freely in their holders can cause intermittent excitation.
· Faulty Rotating Diodes (on brushless generators): A shorted or open diode in the rotating rectifier will cause uneven and pulsating DC to the main field, directly causing voltage ripple and hunting.

4. Interaction with Other Generators or Loads

· Incorrect Reactive Power Sharing: When two or more generators are running in parallel, their AVRs must work together. If the reactive power (kVAR) sharing is incorrect, the generators will "fight" each other for the reactive load. One generator will try to take more kVAR, causing its voltage to rise, while the other backs off, causing its voltage to fall. This creates a system-wide hunting condition between the generators.
· Large, Rapidly Fluctuating Loads: Sudden application or removal of large inductive loads (e.g., a large cargo pump motor starting, a bow thruster cycling) can shock the system. If the AVR response is not tuned to handle such rapid changes, it can oscillate. This is often a transient hunt that settles down.
· Non-Linear Loads: Modern ships with large variable frequency drives (VFDs) for propulsion or cargo handling can generate significant harmonics (especially 5th and 7th). These harmonics can distort the voltage waveform and interfere with the AVR's sensing circuitry.

5. General Mechanical and Electrical Issues

· Poor Engine Governor Performance: While the governor controls speed/frequency, the two are linked. If the engine speed is hunting (due to a faulty governor or fuel issue), the generator frequency will hunt, and the AVR will try to compensate for the resulting voltage changes, often making the overall instability worse.
· Damaged AVR Components: Internal failure of components like capacitors or transistors within the AVR itself can cause erratic control behavior.

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Troubleshooting Summary: How to Find the Cause

1. Isolate the Generator: First, take the generator off the switchboard and run it on a steady, non-fluctuating load (like the ship's service load).
· If hunting stops: The problem is likely external (e.g., reactive power sharing with other generators or the influence of large, specific loads).
· If hunting continues: The problem is internal to that generator set.
2. For Internal Problems:
· Visual Inspection: Check all connections for tightness (sensing lines, exciter field, brushes).
· Check Brushes and Slip Rings: Look for wear, cracking, or poor contact.
· AVR Settings: Verify the gain and stability settings against the manufacturer's manual. Often, a slight reduction in gain can resolve the issue.
· Test Rotating Diodes: On a brushless generator, test the diodes with a multimeter during a maintenance period.
3. For External Problems (Parallel Operation):
· Check Reactive Power (kVAR) Meters: Ensure the kVAR is being shared equally (or proportionally) between generators. Adjust the AVR's droop settings if necessary.
· Observe Load Changes: See if the hunting coincides with the operation of specific large machinery.

In summary, voltage hunting is a control loop instability. The most frequent culprit is an improperly tuned AVR, but it's crucial to systematically check the entire chain—from the voltage sensing input, through the AVR itself, to the exciter field output, and finally, the external network conditions—to correctly diagnose and resolve the issue. Always consult the specific generator and AVR manufacturer's manual before making adjustments.

22/10/2025

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22/10/2025

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22/10/2025

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22/10/2025

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5 posible reason of high exhaust gas temp of ship generator.  This is a very common and critical issue in shipboard oper...
19/10/2025

5 posible reason of high exhaust gas temp of ship generator.

This is a very common and critical issue in shipboard operations. A high exhaust gas temperature (EGT) on a ship generator can be caused by several factors, ranging from simple adjustments to serious mechanical problems.

Here are the possible causes, categorized from the most common to the more serious:

1. Air Intake System Problems (Insufficient Air)

This is a very frequent cause. The engine needs the right amount of clean, cool air for efficient combustion.

· Clogged Air Filter: The most common cause. A dirty air filter restricts airflow, causing a rich mixture and higher temperatures.
· Blocked Air Intake Ducts: Leaves, plastic bags, or other debris can obstruct the intake.
· Faulty Turbocharger (if equipped): The turbocharger is responsible for forcing more air into the cylinders.
· Turbocharger Fouling: Carbon buildup on the compressor or turbine wheels reduces efficiency.
· Turbocharger Damage: Worn bearings or damaged blades will severely limit airflow.
· Leaks in the Air Intake System: Any leak between the turbocharger and the intake manifold can cause a loss of boost pressure.

2. Fuel System Problems (Excess or Improper Fuel)

This relates to the quality, quantity, and timing of the fuel being injected.

· Clogged or Faulty Fuel Injector(s): This is a primary suspect. A leaking, dripping, or poorly atomizing injector will cause incomplete combustion, leading to after-burning in the exhaust manifold and high EGT.
· Incorrect Fuel Injection Timing: If the timing is too late (re****ed), the fuel burns later in the power stroke, continuing into the exhaust phase.
· Overloading of the Generator: The engine is simply being asked to produce more power than it is rated for, leading to more fuel being burned and higher temperatures.
· Poor Fuel Quality: Low cetane number, high water content, or contamination can lead to poor combustion and elevated EGT.
· Worn Fuel Pump: Delivering incorrect fuel pressure or volume.

3. Exhaust System Problems (Restricted Exhaust Flow)

The hot gases need a clear path to escape.

· Backpressure from a Clogged Exhaust Manifold or Elbow: Especially in seawater-cooled systems, the water-jacketed exhaust elbow can corrode and clog with carbon/rust, creating high backpressure.
· Restricted Silencer/Muffler: Internal baffles can collapse or become clogged.

4. Cooling System Problems

The engine relies on cooling to manage temperatures.

· Raw Water Flow Issues (for Heat Exchanger):
· Clogged Sea Strainer
· Worn or Failing Raw Water Pump Impeller
· Blocked Heat Exchanger Tubes (with mud, debris, or marine growth)
· Freshwater Cooling System Issues:
· Low Coolant Level
· Faulty Thermostat (stuck closed)
· Worn Water Pump
· Scaling or Deposits in the Heat Exchanger (on the engine coolant side)

5. Engine Mechanical Condition

· Worn Cylinder Components: Worn piston rings, liners, or valves can lead to poor compression, resulting in incomplete combustion and higher EGT.
· Leaking Exhaust Valves: A burnt or leaking exhaust valve allows hot combustion gases to leak past it into the exhaust manifold during the compression stroke, raising the temperature.

Immediate Action and Troubleshooting Steps:

1. Check the Load: First, note the electrical load on the generator. Is it abnormally high? Try to shed non-essential loads and see if the EGT drops.
2. Inspect the Air Filter: Check the air filter indicator (if equipped) or visually inspect the filter for dirt. Action: Clean or replace.
3. Check Raw Water Flow: Visually confirm a strong, consistent flow of water from the exhaust discharge. A weak flow indicates a problem with the raw water pump, strainer, or heat exchanger. Action: Clean strainer, check/replace impeller.
4. Compare Cylinders: If you have a pyrometer for each cylinder, identify if one cylinder is significantly hotter than the others. This strongly points to a problem isolated to that cylinder, like a faulty fuel injector.
5. Check for Black Smoke: Black smoke combined with high EGT almost always indicates a problem with the air supply (clogged filter, turbo issue) or a over-fueling (bad injector).

Safety Reminder: High EGT is a serious condition. If it continues to rise towards the engine's safety shutdown limit, reduce load immediately and prepare to switch to another generator to avoid severe engine damage.

Summary: Start with the simple and most common causes—load, air filter, and raw water flow. If the problem persists, it's time to investigate the fuel injectors and the mechanical condition of the engine. Always refer to the specific Yanmar service manual for your engine model for precise troubleshooting procedures and safety limits.

19/10/2025

what is the reason of RPM and Hz hunting??🤔😮‍💨

19/10/2025

Ang dahilan kong bakit nagha-hunting sya..

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19/10/2025

ang dahilan bow..
orig vs fake.. 😂🤣

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