The Art of Social Change podcast

The Art of Social Change podcast A podcast for conversations with creatives including recognized or emerging artists and initiatives supporting social change. To unlearn, debate and inspire.

By Gabriela Salomon & Alix de La Chapelle For this second season of the Art of Social Change, we take the podcast to another dimension. We discuss with those who contribute to creating new perspectives on the world, whether it's through poetical or concrete means. We stir up conversations with amazing guests including recognized or emerging artists and initiatives supporting social change, to unlearn, debate and inspire. This podcast is brought to you by Gaby Salomon .studio and Alix de La Chapelle .de.la.chapelle

Images of the artworks and projects discussed with our guests will be regularly posted here and you can find all the podcasting platforms in our bio link.

This publication is more than a book — it’s a map of influence. In our conversation with Andrea Fraser, we unpack how sh...
09/03/2025

This publication is more than a book — it’s a map of influence. In our conversation with Andrea Fraser, we unpack how she used public campaign finance data to reveal the political alignments of museum trustees, and how this kind of transparency challenges the myth of institutional neutrality.



📸 Andrea Fraser, 2016 in Museums, Money, and Politics, 2018. Book cover. Photo: Alex Yudzon. Courtesy of the artist and Marian Goodman Gallery.

In Official Welcome, Andrea Fraser delivers a mashup of actual speeches by art patrons, curators, and sponsors — before ...
08/31/2025

In Official Welcome, Andrea Fraser delivers a mashup of actual speeches by art patrons, curators, and sponsors — before disrobing entirely. The performance unpacks the often unspoken dynamics of power, exposure, and complicity that shape the artist-patron relationship. In our episode, we talk about how Fraser navigates these tensions, both in performance and in real life.



📸 Andrea Fraser, Official Welcome (Kunstverein Hamburg), 2001/2003. Video still. Courtesy of the artist and Marian Goodman Gallery.

What does it mean to critique the very systems you’re part of? In this episode, Andrea Fraser reflects on her early perf...
08/06/2025

What does it mean to critique the very systems you’re part of? In this episode, Andrea Fraser reflects on her early performances, the contradictions of institutional critique, and the emotional complexity of being both inside and against the art world.



📸 Andrea Fraser, This meeting is being recorded, 2021. Installation view, Marian Goodman Gallery, 2023. Photo: Alex Yudzon. Courtesy of the artist and Marian Goodman Gallery.

Andrea Fraser’s iconic performance Museum Highlights turned the guided tour of a museum into a subversive stage. This pe...
07/28/2025

Andrea Fraser’s iconic performance Museum Highlights turned the guided tour of a museum into a subversive stage. This performance redefined institutional critique—and it still resonates today. Revisit it with us in our latest episode.

This episode was made in collaboration with



Andrea Fraser, *Museum Highlights: A Gallery Talk*, 1989. Performance at Philadelphia Museum of Art. Photo: Kelly & Massa Photography. Courtesy of the artist, Marian Goodman Gallery, and Nagel Draxler Gallery.

Tomorrow we will be releasing a new episode with Andrea Fraser. Andrea joins us to discuss art, institutions, and power....
07/14/2025

Tomorrow we will be releasing a new episode with Andrea Fraser. Andrea joins us to discuss art, institutions, and power. Since the 1980s, the artist has used performance, video, and installation to critique the art world with humor and sharp insight, addressing gender, race, privilege, and the commodification of art. This conversation was recorded in collaboration with CIMAM in the context of their 56th Annual Conference in Los Angeles.

Andrea Fraser
Museum Highlights: A Gallery Talk, 1989
Performance
Philadelphia Museum of Art, Philadelphia, PA
February 5,1,112,18 and 19, 1989
Courtesy of the artist, Marian Goodman Gallery and Nagel Draxler Gallery
Photo credit: Kelly & Massa Photography


What if collections were also about supporting artists? When the Forge acquires and loans works, they can foster represe...
07/14/2025

What if collections were also about supporting artists? When the Forge acquires and loans works, they can foster representation and support contemporary indigenous artists.
🎧 listen to our episode with before we release the new one :)
Link in bio

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📸 Pictured: “Forest” (2019), willow, yarn, spray paint, and buffalo sinew on AstroTurf, 69 x 52 in.
🎨 Teresa Baker (Mandan/Hidatsa) works with natural & synthetic materials to explore landscapes, movement, and cultural identity.Through a mixed media practice combining artificial and natural materials together, Baker creates abstracted landscapes that explore vast space, and how we move, see and explore within them. The materials, texture, shapes, and color relationships are guided by Baker’s Mandan/Hidatsa culture. In her practice, Baker imbues innate objects with culture and identity.
Teresa Baker (Mandan/Hidatsa) B. 1985 Watford City, ND) is an enrolled member of the Three Affiliated Tribes in Western, ND and currently lives and works in Los Angeles

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📍 Recorded in December 2024 by .de.la.chapelle & .studio
In collaboration with CIMAM’s 56th Annual Conference, Los Angeles.

🥘What does food have to do with museums?Candice Hopkins explained : « Too often, people ask Indigenous communities what ...
04/07/2025

🥘What does food have to do with museums?

Candice Hopkins explained : « Too often, people ask Indigenous communities what they should do, or they extract their knowledge. So If you want to start an organization on Indigenous land, start by asking yourself: What can we offer? What resources do I have? »

At FORGE, that question leads to action:
🍽️ Hosting shared meals with Indigenous chefs to support food sovereignty. Distributing 50% of proceeds of tour meals/hosting fees to the Stockbridge-Munsee Community.
🌾 Restoring land by planting native species instead of lawns
🎓 Offering fellowships with no required outcome—just space, time, and support

Pictured: A meal hosted with the I-Collective, a group of Indigenous chefs, activists, herbalists, seed and knowledge keepers.
Image courtesy of The Forge, Icollective & Tatcher Keats
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🎧 Listen to the full episode—link in bio
Recorded by .de.la.chapelle & .studio
In collaboration with | Ahead of CIMAM’s 56th Annual Conference, Los Angeles.

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NEW EPISODE WITH CANDICE HOPKINS🎵🙌🏻We are thrilled to release a new episode soon with  , executive director and chief cu...
03/31/2025

NEW EPISODE WITH CANDICE HOPKINS🎵🙌🏻

We are thrilled to release a new episode soon with , executive director and chief curator of .
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In our podcast she shared: «  I didn’t grow up with a presumed hierarchy between so called fine art and craft. In Native communities, art is not only a part of everyday life, it’s a central idea. Land, waters and our relationship to it are at the basis of art, of the museum and the work itself. By not having those things segregated or divorced, we perceive culture as the interaction of all these elements, as parts of a greater ecosystem. »

On all platforms soon !
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This podcast was done in collaboration with CIMAM, the International Committee for Museums and Collections of Modern Art, which invited Candice Hopkins as a speaker at the 56th edition of its Annual Conference, held from December 6 to 8 in Los Angeles, under the theme ‘Sustainable Futures: How? When? For Whom?’ Candice Hopkins participated as a keynote speaker on the third day, addressing the day’s topic “Sustainable Communities: Indigenous Perspectives and Worldviews.”

We also want to thank Mireia and Frances for their help in coordinating this interview.
Recorded in December 2024.

« Currently, my work focuses on memories and nostalgia, often inspired by old photographs related to my childhood. These...
01/30/2025

« Currently, my work focuses on memories and nostalgia, often inspired by old photographs related to my childhood. These images were stored in an attic in Paris. They serve as a bridge between my past and my present, between my experiences in France and El Salvador, and allow me to examin the similarities and differences between the two cultures . » Sofia Baussan’s Constelación de Tierras is a series which was inspired by a photo archive of her family spanning El Salvador, Haiti, and France. Sofia reappropriates fragments of memories through painting. It is an exploration of memory, migration, and identity.
🎨 Do you have a childhood memory you could paint ?
🎧Tune into our podcast to hear Sofia talks about the memories behind the paintings. [Link in bio]

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In this episode of The Art of Social Change Podcast, we talk with Sehyoung Lee about how his performances begin—with a d...
01/18/2025

In this episode of The Art of Social Change Podcast, we talk with Sehyoung Lee about how his performances begin—with a drawing.

For Sehyoung, sketches are more than plans—they’re frameworks for thought. Starting with a theory or personal feeling, he maps out abstract diagrams that guide the creation of sculptures, soundscapes, and choreography. These elements form interconnected ecosystems, where movement reshapes objects, and sound alters space.

🖋️ Drawing becomes a tool to anchor ideas and expand them across mediums. Inspired by Bruno Latour’s actor-network theory, Sehyoung explores how humans, objects, and concepts interact—revealing the invisible tensions between individuals and the world around them.

🔗 Link in bio.
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