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05/09/2024

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Labor Link Podcast, Season 2, Episode 3
Organizing Migrant Fishers: From Cambodia to Thailand
An interview with Dy TheHoya from the Center for Alliance of Labor and
Human Rights (CENTRAL) in Cambodia
“Our dream. We would like to see …very independent, community-based
organizations run by migrant worker themselves. So they understand their
rights. They protect their rights. And they stand up together for their
rights… And another thing that we would like to see… is all the children of
Cambodian migrant workers in Thailand having access to school.… They
have a right to education.”
-Dy TheHoya, Labor Link Podcast, Season 2, Episode 3
During this episode we speak with Dy TheHoya, or Hoya, the Head of the
Anti-Human Trafficking and Migration Unit for CENTRAL – the Center for
the Alliance of Labor and Human Rights in Cambodia. Hoya is a former
Buddhist monk who studied in Thailand. He now taps many of the networks
from his time there to build CENTRAL’s outreach and support to
Cambodian migrants inside Thailand.
Hoya describes the complex challenges migrant fishers face, many of them
not getting paid for a year or more, some not at all. He explains the debt
burdens that force many Cambodians to migrate, noting that money paid to
recruiters is just one more loan on top of an already unmanageable debt
burden with high, accumulating interest rates.
CENTRAL’s approach to working with migrant fishers connects direct
services and training on safe migration with organizing and community-
based network building. They are working inside Cambodia to prepare
migrants before they leave the country, and to build support networks
among migrants inside Thailand. CENTRAL receives support from the
International Labour Organization’s Ship to Shore Program to provide safe
migration training to fishers and other migrants. They are building on that to
strengthen organizer networks on both sides of the Thai-Cambodian
border.
This is challenging work in a context where refugees who are outspoken
critics of the Cambodian government have faced deportation from Thailand
and arrest upon being returned to Cambodia. The UN High Commissioner

for Refugees has condemned these deportations. Yet the risk remains,
making migrant workers hesitant to speak out about employer abuse for
fear of deportation. And the organizers who help workers secure remedy
face even greater risk; some have received multiple threats.
CENTRAL’s vision – to build migrant worker networks so they can demand
their rights and support each other – is ambitious and multi-pronged. They
provide safe migration training before migrants leave, support the families
left behind in Cambodia, and provide legal aid to migrants seeking remedy
inside Thailand. Their goal is worker organizing, but they are starting with
the most basic community organizing, encouraging migrants to support
each other in seeking basic services – to collect back wages, access
medical care, or enroll their children in school.
To cite this podcast:
TheHoya, Dy and Judy Gearhart. May 2024. “Organizing Migrant Fishers:
from Cambodia to Thailand.” Labor Link Podcast, Series 2, Episode 3.
Accountability Research Center, Washington, DC.
**Podcast transcripts available upon request.

02/28/2024

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S2E1 - Jon Hartough, Southeast Asia Regional Coordinator of the International Transport Workers' Federation (ITF)

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"These fishers are facing conditions that most workers in the United States would be shocked to hear about. "

Jon Hartough is the Southeast Asia Regional Coordinator for the International Transport Workers' Federation (ITF). In this interview, Jon discusses the challenges in organizing migrant fishers in Thailand's fishing industry. While there have been some positive steps taken such as ratification of the International Labour Organization Work in Fishing Convention (C188), shortened time at sea, and the establishing of Port-In, Port-Out (PIPO) inspection stations, migrant fishers still face severe exploitation. Thailand ratified C188 in 2019, but effective implementation and enforcement remain major challenges to realizing the structural reforms needed to mitigate the significant problems remaining in the industry, both in Thailand and throughout the region.

Labor Link Podcast host Judy Gearhart speaks with Jon about the ITF's support for the Fisher Rights Network (FRN), a union of migrant workers with a presence in a growing number of Thai ports, and why he finds this work so inspiring. Jon recently published a summary of what fishers are up against in The New Samudra Report, #86. Highlights from that article follow.

Poor health and safety conditions: Conditions on board vessels remain substandard. Fishers regularly report inadequate food and clean drinking water, poorly stocked and inaccessible first-aid kits, insufficient protective equipment, poor training, cramped sleeping quarters, the absence of toilets, and limited hours of rest that increase injuries and accidents on board vessels.



Financial exploitation: Many fishers report receiving wages significantly lower than the amount stated in their employment contracts, and, in most cases, wages are paid in cash rather than as monthly bank transfers as required by Thai law. Fishers continue to remain at high risk of debt bo***ge due to unlawful migration and high broker or document fees.



Document retention and movement restrictions: Fishers report that their passports, work permits, automated teller machine (ATM) cards, bank passbooks, and other important documents are often held by the boat captain or owner and are not accessible. This restricts the movement of fishers and limits their ability to change vessels, access payments, freely transfer or remit earnings, and report abuse.



Ineffective implementation and enforcement of ILO C188: Despite ratification, significant gaps remain in the effective implementation and enforcement of C188. Thai law and labor inspections currently do not meet the standards outlined in the Convention.



However, despite these problems, fishers are now recognizing they can reshape the industry and improve their future, if they organize to build power. The International Transport Workers’ Federation (ITF) has been assisting fishers in forming the Fishers Rights Network (FRN), the first and only independent and democratic trade union for migrant fishers in Thailand. Since its inception in 2018, the FRN has established organizing centers in three major Thai fishing ports and organized over 3,000 migrant fishers. The main organizing centers are in Songkhla (in the ‘Deep South’), Ranong (on the Andaman Sea coast along the Myanmar border), and in Trat (eastern Thailand on the Cambodian border). These strategic locations have allowed the FRN to organize fishers as they enter the country and while they work on board fishing vessels.

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