And That's Why We Drink

And That's Why We Drink A Paranormal and True Crime Podcast by Christine Schiefer, Em Schulz, and Boxed Wine. 👻🥤🖤🍷💀 We release new episodes every Sunday!

A Paranormal and True Crime Podcast by Christine Schiefer, Em Schulz, and Boxed Wine.

It’s Episode 429 and are we well? No! This week Em brings us to the very haunted Cape May, NJ for a quick story on the H...
04/27/2025

It’s Episode 429 and are we well? No! This week Em brings us to the very haunted Cape May, NJ for a quick story on the Hotel Macomber and a couple bonus personal ghost stories. Then Christine covers the absolutely devastating case of the Las Cruces Bowling Massacre, which is truly the stuff of our nightmares. Big trigger warning for child/infant death for this one. And you just might catch us at the next Hoop and Stick Con… and that’s why we drink!

If you have any information on the Las Cruces Bowling Alley Massacre please call: 1-800-222-8477.
Tips can also be provided online at NMCrimeStoppers.org or through the Crime Stoppers app, “P3 TIPS.”

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1. The 5 story Hotel Macomber (top left), the Hoop & Stick convention logo with a child playing hoop and Stick (top right), photos of all the victims of the Las Cruces Bowling Alley Massacre and the original and age progressed composite sketches of the suspects.
2. Photos of victims Amy Houser (top left), the Teran family including Stevan Teran and daughters Paula and Valarie and wife Audrey, and additional photos of Valarie and Paula at 6 and 2.5-years-old.
3. Survivors Melissia Repass and mother Stephanie Senac, and Ida Holguin.
4. Composite sketches of the suspects along with ai-generated versions to bring them to life from ai-witness-report.com and tip line information.

It’s Episode 428 and we’re off to a better start than usual! This week Em tells us all about one of the last standing la...
04/20/2025

It’s Episode 428 and we’re off to a better start than usual! This week Em tells us all about one of the last standing landmarks of the Old West, the haunted Hotel Metlen in Montana. Then Christine covers the extremely sad and shocking case of Andrew Bagby, one of the earliest true crime cases she learned about. And remember if it’s technically possible you were possessed, then clearly you were… and that’s why we drink!

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Image descriptions:
1. The several story white and green Hotel Metlen (top), Andrew Bagby in a graduation cap with parents David and Kathleen (bottom left), and filmmaker Kurt holding Andrew’s son Zachary and giving him a kiss on the cheek (bottom right)
2. Larger images of Andrew and parents and son.

Episode 427 is here and this week Em takes us to Iowa for the super haunted Farrar Schoolhouse. Then Christine covers th...
04/13/2025

Episode 427 is here and this week Em takes us to Iowa for the super haunted Farrar Schoolhouse. Then Christine covers the well known and very upsetting story of Amber Hagerman aka the case that spawned the creation of the AMBER Alert system… and that’s why we drink!

Image description: The Farrar Schoolhouse - a several story brick school (top) Amber Hagerman - a young girl with dark hair (bottom left), Amber riding her bike (middle right), and the AMBER Alert and Department of Justice Logos (bottom right)

Episode 426 is here and if you need us, we’ll be in the VR movie theater. This week Em brings us the wild story of the h...
04/06/2025

Episode 426 is here and if you need us, we’ll be in the VR movie theater. This week Em brings us the wild story of the haunted Burlington County Prison. Then Christine covers an unfortunate case that leaves us speechless, Hannah Anderson and Jim DiMaggio… and that’s why we drink!

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Image description: photo of the 2 story brick Burlington County Prison (top), Hannah Anderson (bottom left), and Christina and Ethan Anderson (bottom right).

SEE US LIVE! This month! Next week in New Orleans and Houston, and St. Louis and Kansas City at the end of the month.You...
04/01/2025

SEE US LIVE! This month! Next week in New Orleans and Houston, and St. Louis and Kansas City at the end of the month.

You don’t want to miss out on a night of frights and fun with our Pour Decisions Tour. 👻🖤

🎟️ get your tickets before they’re gone at AndThatsWhyWeDrink.com/live

It’s April Fool’s Day and the biggest trick of all may be the flavor of Christine’s drink! For this months Listener Stor...
04/01/2025

It’s April Fool’s Day and the biggest trick of all may be the flavor of Christine’s drink!

For this months Listener Stories Eva has collected a batch of wild, spooky, and trick filled tales including a fire station ghost, an accidental haunting, a clown in a basement, and some ghostly school kids just to name a few… and that’s why we drink!

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Image description: Christine showing off her Almdudler soft drink for Em (top), photo of the Fourth Ward School a hauntingly beautiful several story school house (bottom left), and a photo inside one of the classrooms with the old timey desks (bottom right).

Don’t forget to check out our weekly Yappy Hour on Patreon! This week we dive into some of Em’s favorite bars they went ...
03/31/2025

Don’t forget to check out our weekly Yappy Hour on Patreon! This week we dive into some of Em’s favorite bars they went to while in Portland.

Watch now at Patreon.com/ATWWDPodcast 🖤

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Screenshot of Em and Christine smiling during this week’s Yappy Hour bonus episode with the link at the bottom.

It’s Episode 425 and we’ve Ore-gone to Oregon! This week Em brings us the third and final part of the Miracle of Laon ak...
03/30/2025

It’s Episode 425 and we’ve Ore-gone to Oregon! This week Em brings us the third and final part of the Miracle of Laon aka the Exorcisms of Nicola Aubry, where we have a little Wicked Beelzebub moment. Then Christine brings us some breaking news! with the Aaron Goodwin murder plot, the true crime and paranormal crossover we never expected… and that’s why we drink!

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1. Images from the episode including Astaroth the Duke of Hell, two photos of Aaron Goodwin and his wife Victoria, and some photos from Christine’s stay at the Southern Pacific Railroad Park.
2. Illustration of Astaroth the Great Duke of Hell, a naked man with feathered wings and a crown riding a dragon-like beast and holding a serpent. He has long toenails and the proportions of everything feel “off”.
3. Two photos of Aaron Goodwin and wife Victoria.
4. The Railroad Park sign and a train car that says Southern Pacific.
5. A photo of the red Santa Fe train car Christine stayed in along with the inside, and a photo of two of the train cars, the red one Christine stayed in and the yellow one she had picked.

Have you listened to Episode 424 yet? With a surprise appearance from Leona! ❤️
03/24/2025

Have you listened to Episode 424 yet? With a surprise appearance from Leona! ❤️

A note from the team about Billie-Jo Jenkins Part 2 ❤️ (coming out this Sunday) To Our Amazing Listeners,We sincerely ap...
03/19/2025

A note from the team about Billie-Jo Jenkins Part 2 ❤️ (coming out this Sunday)

To Our Amazing Listeners,

We sincerely apologize for the delayed release of Part 2 of the Billie-Jo Jenkins story. We know how much you invest in these episodes, and we regret any confusion or frustration this caused. Your support means the world to us, and we’ve heard your feedback and frustrations.

This was an unfortunate and unintentional mishap on our part. After a long break from recording, we mistakenly missed covering Part 2 and didn’t realize the delay would be longer than expected when we addressed it. So we do apologize for potentially misleading you that it may be released earlier. It was an honest mistake in a packed schedule, but we completely understand how it may have come across as careless, and for that, we are truly sorry.

Most importantly, we deeply apologize that this came across as disrespectful to Billie-Jo’s memory or her family. That was never our intent, and we remain committed to handling every story with the utmost care and attention they deserve.

Thank you for holding us accountable with kindness. We’re always learning and growing, and we appreciate you being on this journey with us.

With all the love,
Em, Christine and the whole ATWWD Team

Episode 423 is here and we’re coming to you live through our gamboozler bamdoozit who-whatsit. This week Em brings us an...
03/16/2025

Episode 423 is here and we’re coming to you live through our gamboozler bamdoozit who-whatsit. This week Em brings us another multi-parter with the wild story of the exorcisms of Nicola Aubry aka the Miracle of Laon. Then Christine covers the red flag filled case of Deorr Kunz Jr, an unsolved missing child case from 2012. And does anyone know what the half life of holy water is? …and that’s why we drink!

P.S. We promise Billie-Jo Jenkins Pt. 2 will be coming next week so stay tuned!

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Image description: Book cover of The Triumph of the Blessed Sacrament The Exorcism of Nicola Aubry with a golden chalice (top left), an old timey illustration of a priest chasing away a demon (top right), photo of Deorr Kunz Jr - a young blonde boy (bottom left) and an age progressed photo of Deorr (bottom right).

Episode 422 is here and we’ve been Zorg blasted by Zenon! This week Em finishes out Part 2 on the Cage of St Osyth. Then...
03/09/2025

Episode 422 is here and we’ve been Zorg blasted by Zenon! This week Em finishes out Part 2 on the Cage of St Osyth. Then Christine covers the haunting case of Alicia Kozakiewicz.

And we promise Pt. 2 of Billie-Jo Jenkins’ case will be coming soon! So stay tuned and stay safe out there! …and that’s why we drink!

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Image description: several photos of Alicia Kozakiewicz and the logo for The Alicia Project

03/08/2025

Come see what may be our Pourest Decision yet… 👻 get your tickets at AndThatsWhyWeDrink.com/live you won’t want to miss this one!

“The perfect cup doesn’t exi-“
03/07/2025

“The perfect cup doesn’t exi-“

Don’t worry everyone! Baby G did get lots of smooches from Funcle Em when they were reunited recently during our first S...
03/03/2025

Don’t worry everyone! Baby G did get lots of smooches from Funcle Em when they were reunited recently during our first Spring Pour Decisions shows 🐾😍💗

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Image descriptions: two photos of Em smooching little Gio, the most handsome fluffy pup around.

Episode 421 is here and the energy is chaotic. This week we’re headed to England first for Em’s part 1 on the Cage of St...
03/02/2025

Episode 421 is here and the energy is chaotic. This week we’re headed to England first for Em’s part 1 on the Cage of St Osyth. Then Christine tells us part 1 of the tragic case of Billie-Jo Jenkins… and that’s why we drink!

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Image description: Skeleton of “witch” found at St Osyth (top), the plaque labeling The Cage Medieval Prison (middle left), the cage building with brick at the bottom and painted yellow up top (bottom left), young Billie-Jo Jenkins (bottom right).

Come see us THIS MONTH on the West coast! The Pour Decisions tour is one of our favorites yet - you don’t want to miss o...
03/01/2025

Come see us THIS MONTH on the West coast!

The Pour Decisions tour is one of our favorites yet - you don’t want to miss out on the spooky fun. 👻

🎟️ get your tickets today at: AndThatsWhyWeDrink.com/live

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