Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting

Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting FAIR, the national media watch group, has been offering well-documented criticism of media bias and censorship since 1986. http://www.fair.org

FAIR fights censorship, challenges media’s conventional wisdom and champions independent journalism.

FAIR fights censorship, challenges media’s conventional wisdom and champions independent journalism.

Operating as usual

As the United States withdrew militarily from Afghanistan in August, US TV news interest in the plight of the country’s ...
12/21/2021
Media Forget Afghan Plight as US Sanctions Drive Mass Famine Risk

As the United States withdrew militarily from Afghanistan in August, US TV news interest in the plight of the country’s citizens spiked, often focusing on “the horror awaiting women and girls” to argue against withdrawal.

Four months later, as those same citizens have been plunged into a humanitarian crisis due in no small part to US sanctions, where is the outrage?

As Afghan citizens have been plunged into a humanitarian crisis due in no small part to US sanctions, where is the outrage?

Whether infection-induced immunity or vaccine-induced immunity is better is not the most important question. For unvacci...
12/17/2021
The Dangerous Misuse of ‘Natural Immunity’ Against Covid Vaccination

Whether infection-induced immunity or vaccine-induced immunity is better is not the most important question. For unvaccinated people who haven’t had an infection, the question is whether one is better off getting vaccinated or getting Covid, and the data is clear that getting vaccinated is better. Covid infection is hundreds of thousands of times more dangerous than vaccination.

For the question of whether people who have had Covid should get vaccinated, that answer is also obvious. The current research shows that people with “hybrid immunity” (immunity from being vaccinated after having had Covid) often have even greater, “super” immunity than those who have only recovered from a previous infection.

Vaccination seeks herd immunity without the massive human costs that come with letting the virus run its course.

CounterSpin listeners know about the daylight, slow-motion assault on the US Postal Service, led by Trump supporter Loui...
12/17/2021
Caleb Nichols on Defending Public Libraries

CounterSpin listeners know about the daylight, slow-motion assault on the US Postal Service, led by Trump supporter Louis DeJoy, which seems intent on worsening services and jobs with a thinly veiled, long-held goal of privatization. Some people just can't abide a public institution that serves people regardless of status, and without making a handful of rich people richer. But you might not know that a similar sort of effort is underway, targeted at another venerable and stubbornly public institution: public libraries.

Libraries aren't just a meaningful reality, but a meaningful symbol of the fact that there is a thing called the public interest.

On a day when some outlets soberly reported that the recorded US death toll is about to surpass 800,000—a number greater...
12/14/2021
ACTION ALERT: As US Covid Deaths Reach 800,000, Atlantic Essay Asks: Who Cares?

On a day when some outlets soberly reported that the recorded US death toll is about to surpass 800,000—a number greater than the entire population of Seattle, Denver or Washington, DC; greater than the US toll from the Spanish Flu or the Civil War—the Atlantic gleefully marked the occasion by publishing a glib piece headlined “Where I Live, No One Cares About Covid.”

Beyond the clickbait shock value is a sociopathic contempt for others' lives, a narcissistic dismissal of neighbors devastated by Covid.

Transcript of Janine Jackson's interview with Ralph Nader:"So when corporations pollute air, that’s violence. That produ...
12/14/2021
‘Our Democracy Is in Perilous Decay, and We Can Turn It Around’

Transcript of Janine Jackson's interview with Ralph Nader:

"So when corporations pollute air, that’s violence. That produces cancer, respiratory diseases. When they contaminate your drinking water, that is violence. When they have unsafe workplaces--60,000 workers die from workplace-related diseases--that’s violence. There’s nothing philosophically abstract about corporate crime."

"We have to be more demanding as citizens. We have to raise our expectations about our own significance as citizens."

Immigration, as both an area of policymaking and a topic of public discourse, holds the peculiar distinction of having p...
12/10/2021
Playing ‘Both Sides’ on Immigration Leaves Public in the Dark

Immigration, as both an area of policymaking and a topic of public discourse, holds the peculiar distinction of having perhaps the widest gulf between how strongly the public and the press feel about it, on the one hand, and how much they actually know about its history and mechanics on the other.

The mask slips and it becomes clear that this is not about facts, but an irresistible story of political clash, a clash that is itself fed by the failure to facilitate a nuanced discussion.

The details never mattered, subservient as they were to the greater goal of narrative conflict. It’s an addiction that many in the media just can’t seem to break, even as the consequences continually manifest themselves in real time.

https://fair.org/home/playing-both-sides-on-immigration-leaves-public-in-the-dark/

Immigration coverage suffers from a version of the same inane both sides-ism that permeates so much of political coverage in general.

Transcript of CounterSpin's interview with Dorothee Benz on the January 6 insurrection--originally aired January 8, 2021...
12/10/2021
‘This Violent Piece of Insurrection Was Planned Openly on Unencrypted Channels’

Transcript of CounterSpin's interview with Dorothee Benz on the January 6 insurrection--originally aired January 8, 2021:

"The fact that the police were so-called 'unprepared'—I saw that word several times in the media coverage—it’s not that they were unprepared, it’s that they were prepared for white nationalists, which to them is not a crisis in the same way that Black people demanding rights is, or people insisting that public healthcare and national healthcare should be a thing.

"The problem goes much deeper there. And it is both a problem of how we have governed, and a problem of how the police and the military have been central to white supremacy. Structurally, foundationally, ideologically, the function of the police has always been to defend the system as it exists, and the system is a white supremacist system. The ruling power started 500 years ago with settler colonizers; it went on to include genocide, slavery, strikebreaking in the more modern capitalist era. It has never included defending democracy. That is a central understanding of how the police work. They weren’t overwhelmed. They knew; they just didn’t think it was a problem."

"It’s not that they failed at overturning the election; it’s that they succeeded in mainstreaming fascism and fascist tactics."

This year marks the 55th anniversary of the publication of Unsafe at Any Speed: The Designed-In Dangers of the American ...
12/10/2021
Ralph Nader on Journalism and the Public Interest

This year marks the 55th anniversary of the publication of Unsafe at Any Speed: The Designed-In Dangers of the American Automobile. It came out at a time when the official auto industry position was that all crashes were the fault of the driver. Unsurprisingly, the book raised the hackles of industry owners; perhaps somewhat surprisingly, they thought a clever response would be, rather than address the concerns, to try and dig up dirt on the messenger. That backfired in a big way; congressional hearings were held in March of 1966, and by September, there were new auto safety laws on the books.

The book's author was Ralph Nader, consumer advocate, lawyer, author and radio host. He has founded many organizations including the Center for Study of Responsive Law, Public Citizen, the Public Interest Research Group, the Center for Auto Safety, Clean Water Action Project, the Disability Rights Center, the Pension Rights Center and the Project for Corporate Responsibility, as well as the magazine Multinational Monitor. He joins us this week on CounterSpin.

A small group of people, willing to confront entrenched ideas and power, really can make change in the public interest.

When CNN landed a sit-down interview with Kyrsten Sinema, it presented a rare opportunity to do what journalists are sup...
12/09/2021
ACTION ALERT: CNN Asks Sinema No Questions About Conflicts

When CNN landed a sit-down interview with Kyrsten Sinema, it presented a rare opportunity to do what journalists are supposed to do: hold power to account.

Instead, CNN’s questions primarily ranged from the inane (“Is it hard for you to tell the president, no, I can’t do that?”) to the flattering, casting Sinema as a straight-shooter stuck with bad party leaders.

Please urge CNN to ask tough questions even—or especially—of officials like Kyrsten Sinema who don't grant many interviews.

Transcript of Vera Eidelman's CounterSpin interview on anti-protest laws:"For at least the last five years now, we have ...
12/09/2021
‘They Are Taking Aim at Our Fundamental American Right to Protest’

Transcript of Vera Eidelman's CounterSpin interview on anti-protest laws:

"For at least the last five years now, we have seen legislators respond to vocal, powerful, full-throated advocacy, not by listening to what their constituents are saying, but instead by seeking to create new laws that would silence them.

"Examples of the types of laws range from increasing penalties on laws that already make something criminal—so, for example, laws that already criminalize trespass, or refusal to disperse, or failure to obey an officer; all of those things are already illegal, and these laws would seek to increase the penalties that attach. In some cases, the bills seek to increase the penalties, not just in terms of criminal time, which of course is incredibly impactful, but also in terms of restricting people’s access to public employment, to public office and even to public benefits; things like access to scholarships for school, food stamps and the like."

"We have...seen the continuation and deepening of the anti-democratic, anti-protest legislative trend around the country."

Did you know the most common donation FAIR received on PayPal in 2021 was $5!? We mean it when we say EVERY donation cou...
12/08/2021
Extra

Did you know the most common donation FAIR received on PayPal in 2021 was $5!? We mean it when we say EVERY donation counts! Can you spare $5 to help us meet our $65,000 fundraising goal by Jan. 1? Whether you can donate or not, we appreciate you spreading the word! 🗞 📡 📺 💻
https://www.cambeywest.com/EXT/?f=appeal

FAIR doesn't exist without the support of our readers, listeners and activists. To stay independent, we don’t take any advertising or corporate dollars. FAIR is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization and donations are tax-deductible.

In Chile's presidential runoff, a candidate who presents himself as the heir to Pinochet will face another who wants mor...
12/07/2021
Chilean Election Is a Feast of False Equivalency

In Chile's presidential runoff, a candidate who presents himself as the heir to Pinochet will face another who wants more of the country’s population to share in the nation’s wealth. For a lot of the Western corporate press, these two people are equally bad for a country lauded for its moderation.

For a lot of the Western corporate press, the Chilean candidates are equally bad for a country lauded for its moderation.

In honor of Noam Chomsky's 93rd birthday today, here's a video from last month featuring Janine Jackson interviewing Noa...
12/07/2021

In honor of Noam Chomsky's 93rd birthday today, here's a video from last month featuring Janine Jackson interviewing Noam and his colleague Marv Waterstone about their book Consequences of Capitalism, published by Haymarket Books.

https://youtu.be/7-D5jbtnzpI

In honor of Noam Chomsky's 93rd birthday today, here's a video from last month featuring Janine Jackson interviewing Noam and his colleague Marv Waterstone about their book Consequences of Capitalism, published by Haymarket Books.

https://youtu.be/7-D5jbtnzpI

Corporate journalists, having paid little attention to Venezuela in recent months as US-backed regime change efforts flo...
12/04/2021
Western Media: Venezuelan Elections Must Be Undemocratic, Because Chavismo Won

Corporate journalists, having paid little attention to Venezuela in recent months as US-backed regime change efforts floundered, had to scramble to explain and discredit the events. Unable to reheat the “fraudulent” label, there was a return of classics such as “rigged” or “flawed,” which happened to be the State Department’s choice too.

The opposition’s electoral defeat prompted some outlets to to publish sobering headlines, and others to double down on propaganda.

Transcript of Janine Jackson's interview with Carol Anderson on democracy vs. white supremacy:"And as Frederick Douglass...
12/03/2021
‘White Supremacists Were Willing to Hold the United States Hostage’

Transcript of Janine Jackson's interview with Carol Anderson on democracy vs. white supremacy:

"And as Frederick Douglass said, power never concedes anything without a demand. It never has and it never will. To me, the story of America is that we are an aspirational nation. 'We hold these truths to be self-evident.' That’s the aspiration.

"And you have those that confuse that aspiration with achievement. Like, we have overcome? When in fact it has been Black folk who have been fighting to make that aspiration real. It has been those who have been marginalized in the society, those who have faced the brunt of the worst that white supremacy has to offer. And who believed in America enough to fight for it—not fight against it, but to fight for it."

"White supremacy keeps bullying, keeps beating, keeps threatening the viability of the United States of America."

Some say the deferential police treatment of rampaging white nationalists who brought their own gallows, as opposed to t...
12/03/2021
Dorothee Benz on January 6 Insurrection, Vera Eidelman on Anti-Protest Laws

Some say the deferential police treatment of rampaging white nationalists who brought their own gallows, as opposed to the abuse that routinely meets nonviolent Black and brown protestors, betrays a double standard; our guest (from an interview first aired in January) says no, it reflects the single standard of white supremacy.

As the year nears its end, it’s hard not to think back to how it started—with the violent assault on the Capitol.

Transcript of CounterSpin's interview with Enrique Armijo on the Alex Jones defamation suit:"I certainly wouldn’t want, ...
12/02/2021
‘Now I Can Say Anything About You and Not Be Sued for It’

Transcript of CounterSpin's interview with Enrique Armijo on the Alex Jones defamation suit:

"I certainly wouldn’t want, and I don’t think any fair-minded person would want, a parent who has suffered this kind of tragedy to be thinking about preserving their right to sue someone for defamation later, if they decided that one of the things they wanted to do with that grief is try to make sure the incident didn’t happen again.

"I think what would happen is if the Alex Jones side of this argument would win, these parents, rather than speaking out and trying to prevent other school shootings, they would think, well, I want to remain private. I want to protect my own reputation. And there’s a real First Amendment loss to that, because we don’t get to hear from people who really have the most important things to say about these tragic events, and how to potentially prevent them in the future."

"The internet has really changed the distinction between public and private...to make it much easier that someone is a public figure."

The primary example offered of "woke policing" at Politico centered on an article about the GOP campaign to bar transgen...
12/02/2021
Politico Doesn’t Have ‘Woke Police’—It Has Staffers Calling Out Bad Journalism

The primary example offered of "woke policing" at Politico centered on an article about the GOP campaign to bar transgender girls from competing in girls' sports, which the Daily Beast says was deeemed "not inclusive enough of transgender voices."

"Not inclusive enough" here not inclusive at all: Not a single person identified as trans was quoted.

Apparently a disgruntled minority opposed to changes at Politico knew they'd find a sympathetic ear at the Daily Beast.

Increases and declines in unauthorized immigration mostly correlate with changes in job opportunities and other economic...
12/01/2021
Media Don’t Factcheck Right-Wing Migration Myths

Increases and declines in unauthorized immigration mostly correlate with changes in job opportunities and other economic conditions in the US and nearby countries. But anti-immigrant forces prefer to make up their own explanations.

Right-wing figures get little pushback when they promote evidence-free, often absurd claims about incentives for unauthorized immigration.

The trial was marked by early allegations of witness tampering and Judge Bruce Schroeder constantly interfering in the c...
12/01/2021
Corporate Media Celebrate Criminal Justice System—While Differing on Outcomes

The trial was marked by early allegations of witness tampering and Judge Bruce Schroeder constantly interfering in the case on Rittenhouse’s behalf, including barring prosecutors from bringing up the defendant’s meetings with members of the Proud Boys and a previous fight he had been in. Though those points were raised in some media during the case, they were largely dismissed in the wake of the verdict, or portrayed as incidental to the system working. Rather, the jury’s decision was framed as a verdict that upheld the right to self defense, never mind the fact that that right tends to appear and disappear depending on whose self is in danger.

The jury’s decision was framed as the correct call by the justice system, a verdict that upheld the right to self defense,

Help us reimagine a future without media conglomerates or corporate interests controlling the news. Donate to FAIR today...
11/30/2021

Help us reimagine a future without media conglomerates or corporate interests controlling the news. Donate to FAIR today to help us reach our $65,000 fundraising goal by January 1!
https://www.cambeywest.com/EXT/?f=appeal

Help us reimagine a future without media conglomerates or corporate interests controlling the news. Donate to FAIR today to help us reach our $65,000 fundraising goal by January 1!
https://www.cambeywest.com/EXT/?f=appeal

Those sifting for signs of critical weakness in the prosecution argument in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial are missing the f...
11/26/2021
Carol Anderson on White Supremacy vs. Democracy

Those sifting for signs of critical weakness in the prosecution argument in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial are missing the forest for the trees. We ask the law to deliver us from injustice, but remember why people were protesting in Kenosha, Wisconsin, in the first place -- to protest the inadequacy of US systems and institutions to protect or to value Black life.

The head-spinning outrage of this case -- from police thanking Rittenhouse for roaming around with an illegal assault rifle, through his acquittal of the murders he committed -- may make it seem that what we used to quaintly call "race relations" have gone to a whole other level. But it's important to remember that the roots of these events, along with other things we see happening, are entwined deeply throughout this country's history.

And as this week's guest's work reminds us, we aren't just talking about the relationship between Black and white Americans; we're talking about the relationship between Americans and democracy.

https://fair.org/home/carol-anderson-on-white-supremacy-vs-democracy/

This can be a turning point, if more of us understand that history isn't something that happens to us, but something we DO.

Address

124 W 30th St, Rm 201
New York, NY
10001

Opening Hours

Monday 10am - 6pm
Tuesday 10am - 6pm
Wednesday 10am - 6pm
Thursday 10am - 6pm
Friday 10am - 6pm

Telephone

(212) 633-6700

Website

www.fair.org

Products

FAIR’s media criticism work includes research reports and studies published in our magazine Extra!, interviews with journalists offering critical independent reporting on our weekly radio program CounterSpin, advisories and action campaigns focused on emerging media stories sent through our online Action Alert Network and daily updates and media commentary on the FAIR Blog.

Alerts

Be the first to know and let us send you an email when Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting posts news and promotions. Your email address will not be used for any other purpose, and you can unsubscribe at any time.

Contact The Business

Send a message to Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting:

Our Story

Since 1986, FAIR has been monitoring corporate media to document bias, government influence and skewed reporting, while championing the efforts of independent journalism.

Nearby media companies


Other New York media companies

Show All

Comments

https://www.facebook.com/AXJ.OR/videos/2043016569268673 https://www.facebook.com/AXJ.OR/?ref=pages_you_manage Late A.G.Frohnmayer'd deleted all record in L.C. it shows I'd changed my name to Nadia Sindi.Lift old name Faika Sindi.Changed first letters to Saika Findi! Trapped me in criminal record since 1987!
https://www.facebook.com/AXJ.OR/videos/2043016569268673. https://www.facebook.com/AXJ.OR/?ref=pages_you_manage The most Criminal Official of Oregon late A.G. Dave Frohnmayer had deleted and removed all the record from Lane County that shows I'd changed my name to Nadia Sindi then he lift my old name Faika M. Sindi and changed the first letter of my name made it Saika Findi!! and trapped me with a Criminal record since 1987!! This had happened when late A.G. Frohnmayer was Oregon A.G. https://www.amazon.com/Without-Evidence-Anna-Gunn/dp/B076C44SWD/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&hvadid=77721795906863&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvqmt=e&keywords=without+evidence+movie&qid=1634744148&sr=8-1. http://www.salem-news.com/articles/january112014/corruption-petition-ns.php?fbclid=IwAR0n668Efngx8J3l95dUI5tufiMmD73OQWgy2oCp2eovOjeokwQRFW2AbWA https://uomatters.com/tag/dave-frohnmayer-uo-president?fbclid=IwAR1qI1qm6ta1TnXfI9F1r-vjv9XMemLhurXjKptJsvUPHiDJJaFcdmriLhM https://www.wweek.com/portland/article-21195-reputation-for-rent.html https://www.wweek.com/portland/blog-30283-u-of-o-prof-files-bar-complaint-in-long-v-kroger-case.html https://www.dailyemerald.com/archives/uo-president-faces-ethics-complaints/article_de9248c1-bf32-53ea-9a2b-8b67c4c08ad1.html https://www.thefreelibrary.com/University+president+faces+ethics+complaint.-a0153374882?fbclid=IwAR1lSXHpNvxvFW0TxkLDBhjELusnbonQkvyk8I3L7Ovt2UnNodwONa0nD2o Late Oregon A.G. Dave Frohnmayer and Both D.A. Doug Harcleroad, Alex Gardner with the Lane County Sheriff, trapped me in a criminal record since 1987. They have changed first letter in my first name to "S" So I couldn't expunged it!! http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/justice-for-nadia-sindi… My life with Liberal Klans in Oregon! Arab/Muslim Americans are treated less than animals! We are called Sand N… We are being prosecuted in a daily basis! High tech lynching, institutionally racism! Especially for Arab women!! Oregon late A.G. Dave Frohnmayer had my SS# blocked & prevented me from getting employed, made me homeless and jobless! Dave Frohnmayer was the one who started & initiated the fraud of Foreclosed-houses & taking over our homes! His bank robber Rep.Bob Ackerman, Doug McCool, UO Prof. Margaret Hallock. Hired Scarlet Lee/Barnhart Associates. Forged my family’s signature. Gave our fully paid Condo to the thief Broker Bob Ogle, his mom Karen Ogle was working in the USA Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. She administered the power of attorney to have my sister signature, added her son to the deed. Sold without my signature! Bob Ackerman had never responded to the Summon from the Court, and the sheriff never served me or arrested him either!! ThIs is what kind of criminal government we have in Oregon!! Arrest Rep. Bob Ackerman, Doug McCool, Broker Bob Ogle, his mom Karen Ogle, Scarlet Lee/Barnhart Associates, UO Prof. Margaret Hallock, Wells Fargo Both D.A. Doug Harcleroad, Alex Gardner told me they have NO JURISDICTION on Frohnmayer! Oregon criminal Officials are complicit with these crimes against me! Both EPD, Lane County Sheriff Dept. and the FBI had been told to step down from investigating the bank robber Rep. Bob Ackerman & the rest of Lane County Criminal Officials are complicit with him!! I ran five times for public offices! Voter Fraud & Sedition by Lane County government to protect & cover up for the two criminals Frohnmayer & Ackerman!! Oregon government is complicit with their crimes!! https://facebook.com/groups/justice4nadiasindi… http://davefrohnmayer.com Please sign petition. https://change.org/petitions/a-g-eric-holder-sent-jeff-merkley-gov-john-kitzhaber-investigate-abuse-of-power-and-criminal-forgery-by-former-oregon-a-g-david-frohnmayer-and-lane-county-government#share…. Dave Frohnmayer was going to kill me by sending some fabricated story after he called the manager where I used to live to tell her he was waiting for him to pick him up from the Airport! Then Frohnmayer sent me a team of Doctors for Mental health to Evaluate me!
As Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting points out, U.S. corporate media often seem notably willing to convey equal unease with fascist and progressive candidates.
What’s striking about corporate media’s immigration coverage is that conservative think tankers and Republican politicians so often get a platform, while the U.S. public hardly ever learns about immigration from the immigrants themselves. Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting
Janine Jackson of Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting interviewed Emory’s Carol Anderson about #democracy vs. #whitesupremacy for the November 26, 2021, episode of CounterSpin.
"Peter Maybarduk, very simply, what is Moderna claiming it did, and how does that comport with your understanding of the invention of this vaccine?" - Janine Jackson Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting
“Woke” is the label the aggrieved conservative suburbanite puts on the indignity of having to call their Starbucks barista “they” and finding Ibram X. Kendi on their child’s school reading list. Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting
Was it just me or did anyone else notice that not one news organization mentioned the anniversary of the assassination of JFK?
It’s been a rough time for German media giant Axel Springer. The company ousted the top editor at Bild, one of its most influential right-wing newspapers, over sexual harassment charges (New York Times, 10/18/21). Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting
This being the birthday of Jeff Cohen ("Outfoxed," Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting, RootsAction, Progressive Hub), a 25-year lookback at Fox is in order.
Chevron deliberately dumped billions of gallons of toxic waste over the course of decades into the Ecuadorian Amazon, and they fully admit that they did that. Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting
IF YOU DON’T THINK TRUMP WON THE ELECTION… ASK THE MOON MAN Even people who think Trump won the election, are not as gullible as those who think we went to the moon. Trump talking about a Space Force asked about going to the moon. The reply was hopefully in a few years maybe. If we went to the moon in 1969… 1969, over fifty years ago. Yet, we are not able to go there now, we are just able to go up 5 miles into space with Captain Kirk. If we went to the moon over fifty years ago, we would be landing on Uranus by now. If we went to the moon fifty years ago. We would have at least a space station up there if not a full lab or even apartments and housing after fifty years. If we went to the moon, don’t you think that as Capitalistic as we are, we would be going back day and night to get moon rocks to sell. Who want a worthless diamond, everybody even the poor got one of those? Kanye West would pay $10 million for a moon rock for Kim. We could become Trillionaires from just the rocks from there. Then as any scientist would tell you if we went there over fifty years ago. We would be exploring, finding cures for cancer and no telling what else. Discover oil that give you a thousand miles to the gallon. It is unlimited on what we could discover on the moon that could make earth a better place. At least Russia or China would be going up there to make money and discovery. Why aren’t they doing that, simply because we never went to the moon in the first place. Even with 5G, I lose connection talking to someone on earth just 200 miles away. Yet over fifty years ago, we talked clearly with the moon that is over 200,000 miles away in outer space? One small step for mankind… really? How in the world before computers and high tech did Fred Flintstone go there over fifty years ago. It was all lies of propaganda. Then you ask why people do not believe Trump lost the election. Gregory St. James Mundy