04/21/2026
“We can pass 10 executive orders. We can put $500 million for drug development. And if we don’t have people who are willing to hold that space... we’re not going to get anywhere.”
- Ismail Lourido Ali, MAPS Co-CEO
In the wake of the April 18th executive order, Ismail Lourido Ali () sits down with Eamon Armstrong () on The Psychedelic Therapy Podcast () to break down what it actually means for practitioners: legally, politically, and ethically. They cover ibogaine’s sudden rise, the risk of silver-bullet thinking, and the ethics of bringing indigenous medicine into Western pharmaceutical pipelines.
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