08/24/2026
This week we replayed one of our favorite episodes from last year: a conversation with Mississippi-born writer and MacArthur fellow Kiese Laymon on the beauty of his grandma’s garden, Emmett Till, Maurice Sendak, and his first children’s book. Listen to our producer Justine Paradis speaking with Kiese Laymon at the link in bio or on Outside/In, on the podcast app of your choice.
Image credits:
1: John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation
2 & 3: detail of illustration by Alexis Franklin Alexis Franklin Courtesy Penguin Young Readers.
Quotes: “I respect all of the books about growing up in cities, but I just want to read more books about particularly Black children exploring and experimenting with the natural world, for better or for worse. Insects, you know. Crawdads. Mosquitoes. Locusts.”
“I wanted an artist who loved art, gardens and young Black people, young Black boys, enough to create not horrific stuff, but the kind of suspense that is bodily.”