Conscious Chatter Podcast

Conscious Chatter Podcast It's a podcast where what we wear matters. Conscious Chatter is a podcast where what we wear matters.

Conscious Chatter is an inclusive audio space that opens the door to conversations about our clothing + the layers of stories, meaning and potential impact connected to what we wear.

The fashion industry and *sustainable fashion* space has a concerning history with data. 📊 The so-called stat “fashion i...
02/19/2026

The fashion industry and *sustainable fashion* space has a concerning history with data. 📊

The so-called stat “fashion is the 2nd largest polluter globally after oil” unfortunately spread like wildfire before it was found to be unsubstantiated. In 2017, journalist Alden Wicker brought this to light in an article on Racked, and the NY Times did a deep dive the following year, calling it the “biggest fake news in fashion”.

BUT while this stat wasn’t backed up by data, the fashion industry’s impact IS real.

On episode 339, I welcome Beth Jensen, the Chief Impact Officer at to the show to discuss what data means to the organization and how they are addressing fashion’s complex history with it through their open-source reporting and standards.

Some of what we explore —
đŸŒ± A desire for perfect data can’t prevent action
đŸŒ± Navigating the innate grey in sustainability & fashion
đŸŒ± Centering science-backed data
đŸŒ± Integrity in LCA data

Tune in wherever you get your podcasts! 🎧

We are in this period of misinformation and an era in which DATA MANIPULATION is very real. From AI to unsubstantiated c...
02/04/2026

We are in this period of misinformation and an era in which DATA MANIPULATION is very real. From AI to unsubstantiated claims, the issue isn’t only how data is being adjusted to fit the user’s agenda - there’s also the reality that scientifically-backed data is disappearing. đŸȘ„

I discovered investigative journalist through her newsletter “The Understory” that she writes for 
 her article “Big Gov Wants To Take Away Your Climate Data” drew me in and made me immediately reach out to have a deeper conversation.

As Miranda shares, under the Trump Administration, climate and emissions data is disappearing at an extremely rapid rate, which is making it more challenging for journalists to tell important climate stories.

What does fashion have to do with this? SO MUCH. Considering fashion’s concerning history with “data”, along with that fact that several of the most notorious polluters are fashion companies, the overlaps are significant.

And then there’s the marketing piece — when we can’t access scientifically-backed data, does it just become a marketing battle? Tune into the full conversation to hear more of the layers Miranda helps pull back. 🎧

I hope you’re taking care amidst this totally intense and disturbing time. I wrote this very small piece for an upcoming...
01/30/2026

I hope you’re taking care amidst this totally intense and disturbing time. I wrote this very small piece for an upcoming Conscious Chatter episode. It’s in no way comprehensive, as there are so many more examples to add, but it’s a tiny start to acknowledge the overlaps.

I am home with my kids today, participating in the national strike, and my mind has been racing with all the additional examples I didn’t add. Please share more in the comments, if you’d like to build on the conversation.

Talk to your neighbors, support your communities, engage with local mutual aid groups, and never stop listening and learning. đŸ«¶

If you know me, you know I get very nerdy about words and their layered meanings. Which is why reading this segment from...
11/24/2025

If you know me, you know I get very nerdy about words and their layered meanings. Which is why reading this segment from ‘ new book, The Nature Of Fashion, pulled me deep into the pages that followed – 

“The Latin verb texere, meaning to weave or construct with elaborate care, reminds us that both textiles and texts stem from acts of creation. Textiles and texts, born of the same etymological thread, are entwined with our histories, our cultures, our lives.”

The beautiful thing is that these overlaps between textiles and texts – materials and stories – go far beyond just Latin. As our guest shares, they both evoke texture and encode memory, and through her research, she discovered that across various cultures around the world, there are parallels in both language and meanings, connecting textiles with texts.

So, it becomes more and more clear that textiles have something significant to teach us about our collective history and future. At the same time, as Carry reminds us, the inequity of the archives became glaringly obvious the deeper she got into her research.

So, in her book, *data collection* meant something more expansive than what we might be used to. For her, it was rooted in research, while also welcoming imagination and prioritizing oral traditions. 

As she poses in the book –
“What if the story of humanity could be told through a single thread?”

Have you tuned into the podcast or have you read Carry’s book yet?

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