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The San Diego Business Journal provides business news and analysis specific to San Diego County. With the most up to date information and insights, The San Diego Business Journal is on the forefront of delivering San Diego County business news to our readers.

11/28/2022

PEOPLE ON THE MOVE is a weekly feature that is seen by 45,000 of the most influential people in the San Diego business community. This is an opportunity to announce new hires, promotions, award recipients, and board appointments.

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https://www.sdbj.com/people-on-the-move/

Dexcom has scored big in more ways than one.In addition to posting 18% revenue growth in Q3 over Q3 2021, the San Diego-...
11/25/2022

Dexcom has scored big in more ways than one.

In addition to posting 18% revenue growth in Q3 over Q3 2021, the San Diego-based maker of continuous glucose monitoring (CGM) devices announced last month the launch of Dexcom U – a unique program highlighting college athletes with Type 1 diabetes.

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11/23/2022

The San Diego Business Journal’s annual Giving Guide is the #1 tool for local nonprofits to get their message out to the San Diego community and to engage people and companies throughout the region.

As you read this year’s issue, you will learn about each nonprofit's purpose, unique value, the communities they serve, as well as their many programs that need donor funding so they can grow and prosper.

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https://www.sdbj.com/issues/special-editions/2022-giving-guide/

Like a colorful butterfly slowly emerging from its cocoon, the transformation of Horton Plaza from a fortress-like shopp...
11/21/2022

Like a colorful butterfly slowly emerging from its cocoon, the transformation of Horton Plaza from a fortress-like shopping mall to a grand, wide-open development that embraces its neighbors with inviting parks, retail shops and office and lab space is readily apparent.

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https://www.sdbj.com/featured/horton-plaza-redevelopment-nearing-completion/

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11/17/2022

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11/14/2022

Congratulations to the winners of the 2022 Cybersecurity Stewardship Awards!

Executive of the Year: Brent McCarty, ESET North America
Innovator of the Year – Private Sector: MedCrypt
Innovator of the Year – Public Sector: National Security Innovation Network
Workforce Development Initiative of the Year – Public Sector: NAVWAR
Workforce Development Initiative of the Year – Private Sector: Haiku, Inc.
Workforce Development Initiative of the Year – Nonprofit: San Diego Workforce Partnership
Cybersecurity Awareness Initiative of the Year – Private Sector: La Jolla Logic
Cybersecurity Awareness Initiative of the Year – Private Sector: Journeys Map
Cybersecurity Awareness Initiative of the Year – Public Sector: NAVWAR

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https://www.sdbj.com/awards-honors/cybersecurity-stewardship-awards-2022/

Mr. A’s, a classic Bankers Hill restaurant since 1965, has a new owner – and a new look.Named after its founder, John Al...
11/10/2022

Mr. A’s, a classic Bankers Hill restaurant since 1965, has a new owner – and a new look.

Named after its founder, John Alessio, the former general manager of Mr. A’s, Ryan Thorsen, bought the restaurant earlier this year and just completed a $2 million renovation.

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https://www.sdbj.com/featured/mr-as-a-san-diego-classic-gets-an-update/

At the 2022 Business Women Of The Year Awards, The San Diego Business Journal recognizes dynamic women business leaders ...
11/08/2022

At the 2022 Business Women Of The Year Awards, The San Diego Business Journal recognizes dynamic women business leaders who have contributed significantly to San Diego’s workplaces and communities.

Tuesday, November 15, 2022
11:00 AM to 2:00 PM

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https://www.sdbj.com/events/2022-business-women-of-the-year-awards/

Technology is one of the most important and fastest growing segments of healthcare today. The global medical device indu...
11/06/2022

Technology is one of the most important and fastest growing segments of healthcare today. The global medical device industry alone is estimated to be worth more than $465 billion this year and is expected to grow to more than $718 billion by 2029, according to a report by Fortune Business Insights.

As a region with an economy steeped in innovation, San Diego has been, and continues to be, a leader in bringing lifesaving and life-changing technology for healthcare to the world.

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https://www.sdbj.com/featured/san-diego-medtech-industry-making-lasting-impact/

10/28/2022

A subscription to the San Diego Business Journal is a worthwhile investment.

At just $129 for the whole year, your access to the latest San Diego news costs far less than the $5 coffee you enjoy each week.

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Robots, exosuits, wearable posture sensors and AI-powered ergonomics were all featured tech at the first Safety Innovati...
10/25/2022

Robots, exosuits, wearable posture sensors and AI-powered ergonomics were all featured tech at the first Safety Innovation Challenge held Sept. 22 at the San Diego Convention Center. The event was put on by the National Safety Council (NSC) MSD Solutions Lab in collaboration with Safetytech Accelerator.

The MSD Solutions Lab is a NSC program started in 2021 with Amazon to seek out ways to prevent musculoskeletal disorders (MSDs) in the workplace. MSDs are the most common workplace injury and represent the leading cause of worker disability, involuntary retirement and limitations to gainful employment.

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Gary Tanashian has an unusual way of measuring the health of San Diego’s restaurants and he said that so far this year, ...
10/14/2022

Gary Tanashian has an unusual way of measuring the health of San Diego’s restaurants and he said that so far this year, they're doing better than some expected coming out of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Tanashian’s company, New Leaf Biofuel, recycles restaurant cooking oil and 2022 has been a record year, far exceeding pre-pandemic levels, said Tanashian, who also is a board member of the California Restaurant Association’s San Diego chapter.

The restaurant industry is very robust right now,” Tanashian said, adding that he is recycling 115,000 gallons of oil per month this year, up from a pre-pandemic level of about 81,000 gallons and up from about 26,000 gallons during the worst of the pandemic.

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https://www.sdbj.com/featured/dining-industry-recovering-from-pandemic/

Former “Mr. Mayor” Jerry Sanders now has a new title: “Mr. San Diego.”The San Diego Rotary Club bestowed upon Sanders th...
10/06/2022

Former “Mr. Mayor” Jerry Sanders now has a new title: “Mr. San Diego.”

The San Diego Rotary Club bestowed upon Sanders the “Mr. San Diego” title – an award the club has given out to a Mr., Mrs. or Ms. each year since 1952. The award recognizes an individual who has given outstanding community service and has made the region better in numerous ways.

Sanders was honored for more than 50 years of service to the San Diego community.

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Electric vehicle enthusiasts from around the globe were charged up for the San Diego premier of Fully Charged Live, the ...
10/03/2022

Electric vehicle enthusiasts from around the globe were charged up for the San Diego premier of Fully Charged Live, the world’s top home energy and EV show.

The event featured EV test drives from a variety of automakers; expert panels on everything from charging stations to sustainable home electrification; an EV learning center with fun and educational activities for families; and a micro-mobility test track for electric bikes and skateboards.

The event also served as a platform for the unveiling of local EV company Aptera’s latest prototype of its three-wheel, solar-powered vehicle, which was a major highlight of the show.

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10/01/2022

Each week, the San Diego Business Journal delivers the market’s most complete package of business news and information on San Diego County’s companies, industries, and business people.

We cover commercial real estate, banking and finance, biotech, health care, technology, defense, tourism, manufacturing, professional services, and more.

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CYBER SECURITY ROUNDTABLE: IT Pros Share Tales From The Cybersecurity TrenchesGive this special edition a read now. No s...
09/29/2022

CYBER SECURITY ROUNDTABLE: IT Pros Share Tales From The Cybersecurity Trenches

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NIH Awards Lead to New Understanding of NeurologyScripps recently announced that Dorris Neuroscience Center associate pr...
09/28/2022

NIH Awards Lead to New Understanding of Neurology

Scripps recently announced that Dorris Neuroscience Center associate professor Giordano Lippi, PhD, was awarded a $2.3 million grant from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) Brain Research Through Advancing Innovative Neurotechnologies (BRAIN) Initiative to develop a new technology that reveals a major neural component and enhances our understanding of human brain function.

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https://www.sdbj.com/featured/scripps-makes-brain-research-breakthroughs/

A new partnership between San Diego’s Illumina and an Australian foundation will use the power of high-throughput genomi...
09/26/2022

A new partnership between San Diego’s Illumina and an Australian foundation will use the power of high-throughput genomic sequencing to better measure, understand and conserve marine life.

Subscribe to our membership to get the full story on this $27M Project to Utilize Advanced Genomics.

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09/20/2022

The Commercial Real Estate Awards showcase the biggest, best, and most notable commercial real estate projects and sales throughout San Diego.
We will be recognizing the brokers, developer, general contractor, subcontractors, and architects for each winning project.
Finalists will be announced on September 26th!

https://www.sdbj.com/events/2022_cre_awards/

09/20/2022

The Winners of our San Diego Best Places To Work 2022 have been announced.🏆 Congratulations to all of the businesses who earned this honor!

Find the full list of winners here:https://sdbj-com-images.s3.us-east-1.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Best_Places_Winners_Announcements_08-08-22-1.pdf

Nominate Your CFO Today!! https://bit.ly/2HNjeoT Each year, the San Diego Business Journal honors the financial executiv...
02/08/2020

Nominate Your CFO Today!! https://bit.ly/2HNjeoT Each year, the San Diego Business Journal honors the financial executives who work behind the scenes — the chief financial officers. Now in its 14th year, the CFO of the Year Awards recognizes contributions to company growth, leadership and community involvement by top financial executives in the San Diego area. A panel of independent judges, drawn from the region’s top financial leaders, will select candidates who overcame unique challenges and stood apart in the ranks of local CFOs. Thank you to all our sponsors Marsh McLennan, RSM, SDFEI and Torrey Holistic hashtag hashtag hashtag

Nominate today!! http://sdbj.com/2020_CRE_Awards/The San Diego Business Journal’s 2020 Commercial Real Estate Awards sho...
02/03/2020

Nominate today!! http://sdbj.com/2020_CRE_Awards/
The San Diego Business Journal’s 2020 Commercial Real Estate Awards showcases
the most notable commercial real estate projects and deals throughout the region.
The awards will recognize the work of outstanding developers, architects, general
contractors and brokers. Candidates can be nominated as a team or individual.
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ALMOST SOLD OUT!! Join the San Diego Business Journal on January 30th as we honor the top executives and companies appea...
01/23/2020

ALMOST SOLD OUT!! Join the San Diego Business Journal on January 30th as we honor the top executives and companies appearing in the 2020 Book of Lists and SD 500. Don't miss out on the networking event of the year! Purchase your tickets today at https://bit.ly/39VEC8g Presented by Better Business Bureau, Colliers International, First Republic Bank, Kaiser Permanente & San Diego International Airport! hashtag hashtag hashtag hashtag hashtag hashtag

Join the San Diego Business Journal on January 30th as we honor the top executives and companies appearing in the 2020 B...
01/10/2020

Join the San Diego Business Journal on January 30th as we honor the top executives and companies appearing in the 2020 Book of Lists and SD 500. Don't miss out on the networking event of the year! Purchase your tickets today at https://bit.ly/39VEC8g

Presented by Better Business Bureau | US, Colliers International | San Diego Region, First Republic Bank, Kaiser Permanente Thrive & San Diego International Airport

Get ready for the day...and the year. SDBJ's annual Economic Trends breakfast, on January 22, will give insight on what ...
01/08/2020

Get ready for the day...and the year. SDBJ's annual Economic Trends breakfast, on January 22, will give insight on what to expect in business for 2020. Purchase your tickets today at https://bit.ly/37LvwZV

We are excited to announce our Panel Moderator, Mark Cafferty, President & CEO of the San Diego Regional Economic Development Corporation and our Keynote Speaker, Michael Pugliese, Economist at Wells Fargo.

Our featured panelists include; Brett Good, Senior District President of Robert Half, Alessandra Lezama, Founder & CEO of Tootris On-Demand Childcare, Trindl Reeves, Principal at Marsh & McLennan Agency - West and Lynette Seid, Area Chief Financial Officer of Kaiser Permenante.

A big thank you to our sponsors Association for Corporate Growth - San Diego, Kaiser Permenante, Marsh & McLennan Agency - West, Robert Half, San Diego Regional Economic Development Corporation, Tootris On-Demand Childcare & Wells Fargo.

Join us for the 26th Annual Business Women of the Year Awards on November 13th. Purchase your tickets & see the 2019 fin...
11/05/2019

Join us for the 26th Annual Business Women of the Year Awards on November 13th. Purchase your tickets & see the 2019 finalists at http://sdbj.com/BWOTY2019/

We are proud to honor Patricia L. Roscoe with the 2019 Lifetime Achievement Award and excited to announce our Keynote Speaker, Carrie Stone, President of cStone & Associates. Stone will be addressing the topic of "Building Your Value and Brand for Boards."

Don't miss out on the panel discussion, "Getting Women on Boards, Gaining Mentors and Becoming One," moderated by Holly Smithson, CEO of Athena.

A big thank you to our sponsors Kaiser Permanente Thrive, Live Nation San Diego, Marsh & McLennan Agency - West, Sony Electronics, Southwest Airlines, Union Bank, GreenRope and our charity partner American Heart Association - San Diego Division!

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“Through The Looking Glass”

2020 is going to be a year to remember…or forget. We know for sure it’s going to be painful. A global pandemic has disrupted life as we’ve known it, and we were ALREADY facing numerous global crises before the deadly microbe known as ‘Corona Virus’ came along. Climate change, a new and dangerous nationalism, food shortages, and terrorism were all throwing sparks in a dehydrated forest. The economic earthquake that has shaken markets to their foundations has come without a tsunami warning so far, despite the tide receding before our eyes. The coming period of global change will be nothing short of spectacular, and under the degraded and incompetent leadership of Trump and others, we can rightly expect it to be disastrous…at first. How bad it gets, will depend on how quickly we wake up, or go completely broke.

Right now global equity markets seem to have stabilized after a gut-wrenching plummet. This is the result of central banks promising liquidity with trillions of dollars printed to protect lenders. It’s counterproductive printing money to protect bonds because it causes those bonds to lose value; one dollar owed today becomes worth much less when its repaid tomorrow. The façade of temporarily buoyed financial markets is betrayed by unimaginable numbers of job losses. 20 million unemployment claims filed in the U.S. in one month, and this pandemic promises to last for many months around the globe. Those jobs and that foundation are vanishing as quickly as the trillions of dollars lost in the initial market crash, yet we’ve seen almost nothing being done to address it. It’s been reported that one third of renters in the U.S. have stopped paying rent. Millions have lost health insurance. Oil revenues have plummeted more than in any other sector promising to wipe out domestic production. State unemployment and food assistance programs are overwhelmed. Massive food lines are already forming. Farmers are being paid tax dollars to destroy crops while claiming that there’s no demand. Travel, lodging, hospitality, and dining sectors have completely shut down and are likely to remain so. Industry bailouts have become a function of political maneuvering in D.C. Conspiracy theories are rampant. Donald Trump has verbally claimed his ‘authority is total’ as President, and his party has already betrayed every one of its supposed values to place him above the law…except for one: an open and blatant contempt for the poor. People call it “fear-mongering!” to say that the Dow is going to finish its current plummet below the 10,000 mark. I’ll consider it a sad success if it stops before it gets to 5,000.

Many things are being proposed and debated as a path forward towards a new normalcy: A system for safely reopening cities and regions is best devised from the bottom up, supported from the top down, and is likely to include local travel restrictions, a massive testing and tracing infrastructure, and increased treatment capacity. Additionally, the existing proposals are set against a backdrop of real civil liberties concerns, tens of millions without the ability to pay for health care in a for-profit system, a patchwork of legalities, and a very, very stupid idea gaining popularity here: Herd Immunity.

Nothing being proposed in congress right now rises to the scale of what is needed to address all of these problems, Republican Governors and The President have even refused simple measures like expanding Medicaid and requiring private providers to report COVID test results. Instead, President Trump has used press briefings to promote a dangerous anti-malarial drug-Hydroxychloroquine-as a viable treatment for COVID-19. It is not approved by the FDA for such use, and warnings from medical scientists that it can have deadly side-effects were ignored. People have already died from taking it without proper medical prescription since. Trump’s family owns a stake in the producer of it. That’s one small example of his deadly dereliction, corruption, and unaccountability. The big example is that Trump initially called this virus a ‘hoax’, continued to dismiss it as ‘nothing’, and now has fired the independent auditor of the multi-trillion dollar stimulus package passed to deal with this crisis. His buddies think they’re about to get cut in on the deal of a lifetime. I think we are about to see one of the biggest and most disastrous thefts of tax money in history. Senators with advanced knowledge of this pandemic sold their stocks early. Meanwhile, Trump and his allies are complaining about people trying to get a one-time $1,200 check, and are wringing their hands over people being incentivized to not go to work…as if people are not being laid off, furloughed, and outright terminated by the millions. We need financial support for people on the ground until our governments can figure out how to manage this pandemic, and we need it today. Even that basic assistance is not forthcoming.

Making things less certain and more dangerous is the debate taking shape over our elections. Not the one of ‘red vs blue’ ideas, but the debate over how to ensure that everyone can safely vote. Universal voting by mail is the way to do this properly. It’s simple. Mail everyone a ballot the same way we mail everyone a census packet. Waive the postage, require a dated postmark, and check the ballots received against voting rolls. It creates a paper trail that can be verified against fraud, it makes it safe and easy for everyone to vote, and will likely increase participation in the election, which is a good thing. It shouldn’t be a debate at all, but because it flies in the face of systemic Republican efforts to restrict voting access, purge voting rolls, gerrymander districts, and allow foreign interference in our elections, even the United States Postal Service is now under assault as Trump threatens to veto any new Stimulus Package that provides relief for our post offices. Trump said, voting by mail, “…doesn’t work out well for Republicans.” Well, it works just fine for U.S. service members, and in fact, himself. He votes by mail.

The relentless attack on the integrity of our electoral process represents the greatest threat to our national security since the Cuban Missle Crisis, and the greatest threat to our constitution since the Civil War. Not terrorism, not economic disruptions, not Trumps incompetence and avarice, and not even this pandemic are as dangerous to our nation as the possible failure of constitutional electoral processes. If our leaders fail to recognize this, it won’t matter if they miraculously do everything else right, and there is a quickly closing window of opportunity to act. Venezuela is a good modern example of how a disrupted electoral process becomes declared as illegitimate and spills into the streets. It can happen here, in fact, it seems likely at this point. Just yesterday, Trump brazenly declared in a press conference that he has ‘total authority’ as President. I’m not the only person that expects him to try to declare martial law at some point, especially as millions of armed people begin to become homeless, lose internet access, and starve.

It’s sobering to take a step back, take all of this in, and realize that everything has been turned upside down by one microbe from a bats hairy ass half way around the world. Kind of awe-inspiring in a way, like nature’s gonna have her way regardless. Peering through the looking glass we can know a few things for sure at this point: 1) The jobs crisis has only begun and is going to deepen severely taking everything else in the economy down with it. 2) We have a deranged president who is functionally unable to begin to solve these problems as they intensify in the coming months. 3) Our democracy itself is at stake this year, and the outlook is grim at best. 4) The only two things that are preventing us from moving forward are insatiable greed and widespread fear as people seek results “less fundamental and astounding”.

With cultural regression stampeding in, hopefully America figures it out before the ancient rituals of human sacrifice and cannibalism have a chance to make a comeback. That may sound extreme, but authoritarian leaders have yielded up far worse from populations under their destructive influence in the past. For sure, we can expect our national suffering to deepen in the months ahead as reactionary measures and misinformation keep lurching us from one policy failure to the next.

The biggest irony in all of this?

Medicare For All, A Green New Deal, $15.00 minimum wage, Tuition-free college, universal free child care, the complete forgiveness of all student loan debt, greatly expanding Social Security benefits, the end of private prisons, a path to citizenship, universal voting, Wall Street Reform, the break up of the monopolies, and campaign finance reform are all starting to sound a lot more like a future we can all believe in. Taken together, these reforms(or comparable equivalents) would unite us, lay a solid foundation for new growth, and even save the billionaires. The man championing these reforms was forced out of contention for the presidency last week.

At this point, it’s not a question of ‘IF’ our leaders realize it, it’s only a question of ‘WHEN’. Until they do, we can expect the downward spiral to continue.

-Matt Fleming
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