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Podcast with artists, influences and changemakers across the Native American artworld.

Beyond the Art is a podcast about the Native American / Indigenous art world. In each episode we speak with art leaders, influences and change-makers in the Native American arts, from artists to museum directors and everyone in between. We discuss their experiences, the communities they serve, the translation and interpretation of Native American art today, how its transformed and continues to be a integral element in today's tribal communities, and why they’ve dedicated their lives to art.

24/07/2025

🌊 Wisdom, artistry, and ancestral memory—woven into every strand.
We are honored to welcome the extraordinary Elizabeth James Perry - to this week’s episode of Beyond the Art—an acclaimed artist, marine scientist, and cultural knowledge bearer whose work beautifully bridges the past, present, and future.

A recipient of the NEA National Heritage Fellowship, Elizabeth’s creative journey is deeply rooted in her Wampanoag heritage. From carving traditional leadership pendants to crafting Quahog shell beads that echo generations of resilience, Elizabeth’s artistry is an act of cultural preservation and ecological reverence.

🎙️ In this rich conversation with host .bflynn , we explore:
✨ The sacred process of shell carving and bead making
🔬 The interplay between Indigenous science and traditional art
🎨 The beauty and symbolism in handmade versus industrial materials
🏛️ Her role in reshaping the museum world—and challenging its assumptions

Through humor, honesty, and a deeply rooted sense of purpose, Elizabeth guides us into a world where art becomes activism, and nature becomes a sacred collaborator.

💬 Her reflections on legacy, coastal awareness, and the future of Native artistry will leave you inspired and moved.

To Elizabeth—thank you.
For your artistry.
For your guardianship of tradition.
For reminding us that the shoreline holds not only shells, but stories.

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📺 Watch the full conversation on YouTube
🌐 Learn more about Elizabeth’s work and legacy at elizabethjamesperry.com
🙏 With immense gratitude to the for their continued support of Indigenous voices
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18/07/2025

30 Days and Counting...

We're honored to partner with SWAIA in celebration of the 103rd Santa Fe Indian Market-the largest and longest-running juried Native art show in the world.

Join us August 16-17 in Santa Fe, New Mexico, as goes live from the heart of the action, bringing you exclusive interviews and real-time coverage all weekend long with host BTA host .bflynn and

This year's theme, Iconic Beginnings and Legacies in Motion, pays tribute to the generations of Native artists who have shaped-and continue to redefine-the creative landscape. With over 1,000

Indigenous artists representing sovereign Nations across the U.S. and Canada, the city will once again become a vibrant, living gallery of culture, storytelling, and artistic excellence.

This year's Market is made possible thanks to the Muscogee Nation, Van Mabee, and all the sponsors and collaborators who make this iconic gathering possible.

Follow along and dive deeper at swaia.org.
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17/07/2025

✨ She’s not just telling stories—she’s rewriting the narrative.

We are honored to feature Loren Waters , an award-winning Cherokee and Kiowa filmmaker, on the latest episode of Beyond the Art. Loren is a visionary director, writer, and changemaker whose films explore the complex intersections of identity, culture, and environmental justice.

Her powerful short film “Tiger”, which premiered at Sundance, is more than cinema—it’s an emotional reckoning, a call to heal, and a reflection of generational strength carried by Native youth. From Reservation Dogs to OCO TV and The Sensitive Kind, Loren continues to lead with intention, ensuring Native voices are not only heard but deeply felt.

In our conversation, she opens up about:
🌱 The environmental roots that shaped her lens
🎥 The challenges and triumphs of Indigenous filmmaking
🤝 The transformative power of community and mentorship
🔥 Her mission to build lasting pathways for Native creatives

As Executive Director of the Lindy Waters III Foundation , Loren’s work extends far beyond the screen—nurturing a legacy of empowerment for the next generation of storytellers.

To witness Loren is to witness the future of film—bold, brilliant, and unapologetically authentic.

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🌐 Discover more about Loren’s journey and upcoming work at lorenwaters.com

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12/07/2025

🎙️ A heartfelt thank you to the Wheelwright Museum - for their generous support of this episode of Beyond the Art and for their continued commitment to honoring Native voices through art and storytelling. 🧡

We’re thrilled to spotlight their incredible August events—mark your calendars!

✨ Artists’ Market | August 13–15
Meet and purchase directly from more than a dozen Indigenous artists whose creativity and culture shine through every piece.

🧺 Benefit Sale
Discover one-of-a-kind finds and support the museum’s mission with every purchase.

🎟️ FREE museum admission all weekend long—don’t miss this chance to explore the rich history and vibrant contemporary works at the Wheelwright Museum.

📍Located on Museum Hill | Visit wheelwright.org for full event details.

This is a weekend not to miss during Santa Fe Indian Market!

10/07/2025

🎬 New Episode Out Now! 🎧
On this episode of Beyond the Art, we sit down with award-winning Cherokee and Kiowa filmmaker Loren Waters ( ), whose powerful voice is reshaping the landscape of Indigenous cinema.

From her beginnings in environmental studies to her impactful work on Reservation Dogs, OsiyoTV .tv , and The Sensitive Kind, Loren’s journey is one of purpose and passion—using film as a tool for advocacy, cultural revitalization, and healing. Her storytelling blends heritage with environmental justice, shining light on narratives often overlooked in mainstream media.

We dive into her Sundance-premiered short Tiger, explore the roots of community-centered projects like Meet Me at the Creek, and discuss how artists like Taika Waititi have helped carve out space for Native talent to thrive. Loren opens up about the realities of funding independent work, the importance of mentorship, and her mission as executive director of the Lindy Waters III Foundation to uplift the next generation of Native creatives.

This conversation is a masterclass in resilience, creativity, and the transformative power of storytelling.

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A heartfelt thank you to - Wheelwright Museum of the American Indian for their support of this episode and their continued commitment to celebrating Native artistry.

04/07/2025

🎙️ Beyond the Art – Kent Monkman | Reclaiming the Canvas, Reframing the Story

How do you reclaim history through art? In this groundbreaking episode of Beyond the Art, world-renowned Cree artist Kent Monkman | joins host .bflynn to explore how visual storytelling can dismantle colonial narratives and reassert Indigenous presence in the art world.

Known for his provocative and visionary works, Kent uses painting, performance, and installation to rewrite the past through an Indigenous lens. His alter ego, Miss Chief Eagle Testickle, confronts stereotypes and offers a fiercely intelligent critique of settler history, gender politics, and institutional exclusion.

🖼️ Kent’s U.S. curated exhibition debut is currently on view at the Denver Art Museum—a monumental moment in contemporary Indigenous art.

🎧 In this bold and deeply insightful conversation, Kent shares:
• How childhood museum visits shaped his mission to reclaim Indigenous representation
• The origin and power of Miss Chief as a storytelling force
• Why humor, beauty, and sensuality are tools of resistance
• The role of large-scale historical painting in confronting national mythologies
• What it means to create art that speaks truth to power—visually, unapologetically, and inclusively

🔥 This isn’t just an interview. It’s a call to reimagine history and who gets to tell it. Kent Monkman challenges us to see art not only as a reflection—but as a correction.

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Learn more about Kent and his work: https://kentmonkman.com
For details on his current exhibition: https://denverartmuseum.org |

03/07/2025

🎙️ We extend our sincere thanks to the Denver Art Museum for their generous support of our latest episode and their continued leadership in amplifying Indigenous voices in the arts. We’re proud to highlight the U.S. debut of internationally acclaimed artist Kent Monkman and his thought-provoking exhibition, History is Painted by the Victors, currently on view at the museum. This monumental body of work challenges colonial narratives and reframes history through a powerful Indigenous lens.🗓️ Mark your calendars: our in-depth interview with Kent Monkman premiered on June 26 across all podcast platforms and our YouTube channel. You won’t want to miss this compelling conversation.🎟️ The exhibition is open through August 17. Learn more and plan your visit at denverartmuseum.org.

26/06/2025

📸 Beyond the Art: Kent Monkman – Reclaiming History, One Masterpiece at a Time

The moment has arrived—Kent Monkman’s U.S. curated exhibition debut, “History is Painted by the Victors,” is now open at the Denver Art Museum, and it is nothing short of iconic. In this powerful episode of Beyond the Art, host .bflynn sits down with the internationally renowned Cree artist whose work is redefining art history through bold truth-telling, humor, and Indigenous brilliance.

Kent shares how his journey led to this historic milestone. Through his signature blend of satire and visual opulence, he challenges the colonial romanticism of 19th-century settler artists and reclaims space for Indigenous narratives—with beauty, bite, and unwavering purpose.

At the center of this reclamation is Miss Chief Eagle Testicle, Kent’s fierce, gender-fluid alter ego. With empowered sexuality and fearless confidence, Miss Chief turns the gaze back on the viewer and demands a new lens—one rooted in Cree cosmology, gender liberation, and artistic sovereignty.

Kent also shares a behind-the-scenes look at his expanding creative journey, including his transition into literature with the upcoming memoirs of Miss Chief, co-authored with Giselle Gordon. The conversation dives deep into past works like Shame and Prejudice, the evolution of his distinct representational style, and the unshakable impact of Indigenous storytelling in reshaping contemporary art.

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🔗 For exhibition details visit: www.denverartmuseum.org
🔗 Explore full body of work at: www.kentmonkman.com
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24/06/2025

✨ Beyond the Art: Keri Ataumbi – The Visionary Redefining Jewelry as High Art

Step into the world of Keri Ataumbi ( ), and you step into brilliance. A master of material, meaning, and movement, this phenomenal Kiowa artist has redefined what Indigenous jewelry can be—elevating it beyond adornment into the realm of fine art, cultural storytelling, and living legacy.

In this electrifying episode of Beyond the Art, we celebrate Keri’s unmatched talent and fearless vision. Her work—crafted from gold, quill, shell, bone, and intention—isn’t just worn, it’s felt. Each piece is a declaration of identity, sovereignty, and artistic innovation.

Raised on the Wind River Reservation, and inspired by the bold path of her mother, Keri’s journey is one of resilience, refinement, and radical creativity. Her jewelry commands space in elite galleries, private collections, and on those who understand that beauty can also be resistance.

Keri shares her story with hosts .bflynn & , diving into the heart of her creative process—from disrupting stereotypes and reimagining Native design, to developing a bold new men’s collection that expands the language of Indigenous adornment. She is not only a force in the studio but a thought leader sparking critical conversations around sustainability, representation, and value in the world of luxury.

🔥 This isn’t just a feature. It’s a front-row seat to a movement—led by one of the most extraordinary Native artists of our time.

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19/06/2025

💫 Beyond the Art: Keri Ataumbi – Honoring Identity Through the Art of Adornment

Jewelry can dazzle, but in the hands of Keri Ataumbi, it does so much more—it speaks, remembers, and reclaims. As a Kiowa artist who grew up on the Wind River Reservation, Keri infuses every piece she creates with layers of cultural meaning, personal history, and elegant resistance.

In this powerful episode of Beyond the Art, we explore Keri’s extraordinary journey—shaped by her upbringing, inspired by her mother Jeri Ah-be-hill, and driven by her belief that jewelry is more than ornamentation. It is a form of communication, a keeper of stories, and a striking act of Indigenous presence in a world that too often tries to overlook it.

Keri shares how she blends materials like gold, quill, shell, and bone to create fine art pieces that challenge the boundaries of Native design and defy expectations of what Indigenous jewelry “should” look like. Her work invites us to reconsider how we define luxury and artistic value, offering a thoughtful critique of the diamond industry and a call for ethical, intentional creativity.

Through collaborations with fellow Indigenous artists and her exploration of Southern Plains motifs, Keri is not just preserving tradition—she’s expanding it. With a new men’s jewelry line on the horizon, her vision continues to evolve, opening new space for Native identity, masculinity, and expression in the world of high art and fashion.

This episode is a tribute to the artists who make meaning with their hands, to the women who lead with purpose, and to the power of jewelry that doesn’t just adorn—but awakens.

Watch the full episode on YouTube, subscribe to our channel, and be part of the movement to elevate Indigenous voices in the fine art world. Now streaming on .

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12/06/2025

💎 Beyond the Art: Keri Ataumbi – Redefining Indigenous Jewelry, One Story at a Time

Prepare to be captivated by the artistry and voice of Keri Ataumbi ( ), a trailblazer in the world of contemporary Indigenous jewelry. A proud member of the Kiowa tribe, Keri brings a powerful and deeply personal perspective to adornment—one that speaks of identity, resistance, and reclamation.

Raised on the Wind River Reservation and shaped by the legacy of her mother, Jerry Abihill—the first Native woman to own a trading post—Keri challenges the limits of what Indigenous art can be. Her work, crafted from gold, shell, quill, and bone, blurs the line between jewelry and fine art, transforming each piece into a living narrative.

In this stunning episode of Beyond the Art, hosts .bflynn & explore:
✨ How Keri’s creations push against stereotypes and reframe Indigenous design as luxury art
✨ The truth behind the diamond industry and the redefinition of value
✨ Jewelry as an act of storytelling, activism, and environmental awareness
✨ Southern Plains motifs as bridges for cross-cultural understanding
✨ Artistic collaborations with Tanya Larson, Jamie Okuma, and the exciting launch of a men’s collection

Keri’s work is more than beautiful—it’s bold. It reclaims space for Native women, calls attention to Indigenous histories, and opens a dialogue around cultural identity through the medium of fine adornment.

🔥 This isn’t just jewelry. This is legacy. This is sovereignty. This is Native art, elevated.

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08/06/2025

🎨 Beyond the Art: Neal Ambrose-Smith – Where Tradition Meets Bold Imagination

At the crossroads of legacy and innovation stands Neal Ambrose-Smith, a distinguished Native American artist whose work challenges conventions and invites us into a world where art is fluid, fearless, and deeply rooted in heritage.

In this episode of Beyond the Art, Neal—a proud descendant of the Salish and Métis nations—offers a distinct and compelling perspective on what it means to be an Indigenous artist today. His practice spans printmaking, sculpture, digital media, and photography, each medium a thread in a larger tapestry of cultural commentary, humor, and visionary creativity.

🎙️ Join host .bflynn as he explore:
— How Neal’s diverse background informs his artistic lens
— The elegance of Indigenous art as lived experience and visual narrative
— The role of teaching in shaping future voices and keeping traditions alive
— Art’s ability to engage with justice, language, and memory

artistry is not only about expression—it’s about expansion. His work challenges the idea that Native art must look a certain way, sound a certain way, or fit into a box. Instead, it’s ever-evolving, rich with nuance, and distinctly his own.

✨ This is more than a conversation—it’s a portrait of a creative force whose work honors the past while radically imagining the future.

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